Adebayor; Why the dislike, hate, or indifference?

[Double_H]

I will challenge you Marco, to look if we will be better of without him. is that alright mate?

im welling to take this bet

 

[Shadow Moses]

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wow, just wow.

Shocking, isn't it?

 

[asajoseph]

That interview probably explains why he hasnt gone yet and is stalling. Must have come as a shock to him that the club were willing to let him go.

Why?

You'd think a man so acutely aware of the importance of making the most of things financially would understand if the club received an offer that was simply too good to refuse.

 

[Double_H]

wow the shock on his face!!!

i just love it
lazy ****

 

[Biggus]

You can't win here, even if what you are saying is true.

Ain't that the truth......But the point is not to "win" against the person who's disagreeing with you- as you say their minds are made up and they probably don't even read what you're saying anyway. The objective should be to present your point of view in a manner that impartial or non committed observers would find more reasonable, and maybe learn something new yourself by looking at something from a different point of view.

 

[Biggus]

Well, you say that. Just in case anyone's forgotten it...

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Well he was right- Wenger is the boss, the buck stops with him.

@ Marco, wow you've got some really :twisted: :x against Ade, almost as bad as Willy and I. :wink:

 

[BannedKwame]

That interview probably explains why he hasnt gone yet and is stalling. Must have come as a shock to him that the club were willing to let him go.

Why?

You'd think a man so acutely aware of the importance of making the most of things financially would understand if the club received an offer that was simply too good to refuse.

hahaha. that was very good and quotable.

his reality's probably warped because his circle is small and worshipful/dependent, then there's the togo thing. he probably no idea what represents the true arsenal fanbase. maybe this will grow him up, or he might come even more defensive ala anelka.

 

[progman07]

You can't win here, even if what you are saying is true.

Ain't that the truth......But the point is not to "win" against the person who's disagreeing with you- as you say their minds are made up and they probably don't even read what you're saying anyway. The objective should be to present your point of view in a manner that impartial or non committed observers would find more reasonable, and maybe learn something new yourself by looking at something from a different point of view.

I've learnt a lot from you, mate. :wink:

Seriously, what you are saying is true. I meant that he can't come out of that argument leaving positive picture in others, if he defends Ade, even if he was right there...

 

[BannedKwame]

gotta worry about walcott and where exactly wenger see this kid.

Surely he has to be reverted back to his original position, or you do being to wonder whether Wenger will ever make the change. I've had enough of his education on the flank, and he has had plenty of time to work on his weaknesses. He isn't a right midfielder, and we'd be far better off with a specialist in his place. Spending too long out of your natural position could be detrimental, and hopefully Wenger does the right thing.

maybe walcott and his future development also factors into the ade thing, especially if wenger does truly see the kid as a striker. but yea, you're right, he's certainly a striker, but he's still learning and he gets tons more space when he places on the right.

 

[General]

adebayooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I alwyas hated the c**t
we showed him the door...

hope it catches on tomorrow

Mic check .....

How about.....

Adebayor, Adebayorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
He couldn't hit a barn door
so we showed him the door

 

[asajoseph]

All this latest news about Wenger wanting rid of him is interesting - it makes you wonder what's really going on behind the scenes, if Ade's position at the club is such that we want rid of him, not matter what.

He's a good, effective player, but I wonder why we're so keen to just get rid of him?

Is it the money? Is it Wenger sick of him trying to engineer a move? Are we trying to play a different way? Is he a burden in the dressing room?

Apparently he even met Arsenal manager Arsène Wenger to discuss the possibility of remaining at the Emirates for another season - but the French tactician has made it clear he does not want him back. Arsenal would like to honour the deal they have agreed with City.

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[ricky1985]

I think it's pretty clear he has pissed Arsène off with his constant flirtations with other teams. Wenger wants players that are 100% committed, he's all about trust and mutual respect, he obviously has lost that with Ade.

 

[asajoseph]

Hmm, that's what I've thought for a while, but I'm beginning to wonder if there's something more. It will be interesting to see what comes out once this goes through.

 

[asajoseph]

I mean, this story seems to suggest that he had little say in the matter at all:

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It is believed the shocked striker initially threatened to dig his heels in and refuse to join City after being told a fee had been agreed for him and that he had to leave.

He later relented after realising he had no future at the Emirates.

I do wonder how long this has been brewing, and perhaps if it stretches back to last summer.

 

[Nela]

I've thought it's been obvious for some time that Wenger really wants to sell him. I know it's all interpretation in the end, but Wenger's "He can go if he wants to" practically confirmed what I already suspected. Wenger doesn't talk like that about players he wants to keep.

Wenger knew he couldn't lose him in the same year as Hleb and Flamini. But if you go back to some of Wenger's comments last year they seem almost prescient.

"I believe he has to keep a good working attitude. We have seen players before, when they start getting the recognition, they ease off in their team work, and very quickly they die.

"I believe if Ade keeps his work ethic, there is still 20 per cent more to come from him. Does he want it enough - to get this extra 20 per cent out? Well that is where his future lies. If you lose that desire, you quickly become a nobody."

"He was never prolific at Monaco, but he has worked hard for it at Arsenal and it highlights that our offensive game favours the strikers. You will never starve as a striker at Arsenal - you get the quality balls to work with. Ade will be the first to agree with that."

 

[ricky1985]

I've heard Wenger say that the whole 'Adebayor affair' last summer had a big impact on us this season.

Maybe Wenger blames him, to some degree, for wrecking our season?

 

[General]

Hahaha. This is hilarious. Digging his heels in is he!

It is more likely to be the money Asa. People are just looking for excuses that aren't there. Ade is being sold for much needed cash. City's offer is too good to refuse (for a player who is not indispensable) and I'm guessing it's cash money upfront too. If Wenger was sick of his flirtations with other clubs, he would've sold him last summer. Don't forget it was only a few weeks ago he was saying that he wants to keep Ade.

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[Klaus Daimler]

I never listen to rumours that begin with "It is believed...". If Wenger didn't want Ade at the club he wouldn't have extended his contract last season.

if you go back to some of Wenger's comments last year they seem almost prescient.

On the contrary, there's a quote from Wenger that Ade's success story was the one out of all during his time at Arsenal that he was most proud of. If there really is something brewing behind the scenes - and I sincerely doubt it; this is a man that still considers the ****y backstabbers that are Ashley Cole and Nicholas Anelka as good friends - it's something that has happened this season.

I agree with General. It's far more likely that £25 million up front is simply too good an offer to refuse, especially considering our modest transfer budget.

 

[Nela]

The interesting thing is that for all this talk of AC Milan for the past year, I wonder if they've ever even put in a proper bid. We've heard that Barca did last summer, but people seem to just assume that Milan did too. I don't think they did.

AC Milan are actually very cheap. They don't like to spend money. Look at them right now. They got so much money from Kaka, but they've failed to make any real signings, particularly in signing a striker which they claim they want. Dzeko failed, Fabiano failed, Huntelaar failed.

 

[outlaw_member]

Hmm, that's what I've thought for a while, but I'm beginning to wonder if there's something more. It will be interesting to see what comes out once this goes through.

There is definitely more to it than meets the eye. Cesc or Vieira didn't react much differently when potential suitors revealed their interest in them. We received a good offer for our main striker, but if Wenger rated Adebayor as highly as some would suggest, than he would have laughed off any bid that wasn't humongous. If the story is true about him being available last summer if a club matched our asking price. Than I don't believe he was ever seen as an indispensible member of the squad, a status that the main striker at a big club should definitely have attained. In my opinion he is being eased out of the club, and the claim that it is an offer too good to refuse, is just a convenient excuse.