Arsenal v Man U CL 2nd Leg May 05, 2009, 19:45

[Gooner_Milton]

Arsenal fan hangs himself in Kenya

:shock:

Whoah. Err. Definitely not a glory hound.

 

[kramazov]

What's bloody new? do you want to know why we lost, and been average and dare i say a mediocre?

go back to the Transfer Threads. the reasons are there and the fate of our season was predicted there as well.

everything that we expected, predicted, called cynical, non believers and ignorant for happened exactly as we thought it would.

we lack talent and steel and there are too many passengers and injury prone players in the team especially the defence. simple clear problem with our team but our board and manager went all the way around the world searching for the wrong problem to resolve.

 

[Anzac]

Our type of football hasnt changed for sometime. Its possession based football. It never looks very convincing when you are down 2-0 because it seems like there is no urgency. But it works very well when you have a lead.

Anything after the 13th minute is irrelevant.

When do you think it changed? IMO it was the time that Cesc took over as midfield general & Ade as main striker due to TH & RVP injuries, but then again I didn't see much of our play from the unbeaten season until last season.

And I don't agree that anything after 13 minutes is irrelevant in a 90 minute match. ManU were 0-2 down at Home v Spuds & scored 5 after the break.

 

[hackajack]

And I don't agree that anything after 13 minutes is irrelevant in a 90 minute match. ManU were 0-2 down at Home v Spuds & scored 5 after the break.

Well that left us needing 4... and we weren't playing Sp**s.

 

[progman07]

Arsenal fan hangs himself in Kenya

:shock:

Wenger can tell his family Arsenal is a young team, average age 21, and we lost because of the lack of sharpness...

RIP

 

[Cruisio]

Arsenal fan hangs himself in Kenya

:shock:

I cant say I can blame him. I felt like doing that too. It's been a hard couple of weeks

 

[qs]

In the space of 3 minutes we gave two very cheap goals. That was the end of it. No team would come out of that hole against a well organized ManU defense and midfield. I dont feel any shame to yesterday's loss.

Here we go the excuse culture again.......

Thats a criticism not an excuse. Jesus change the ****ing record you're embarassing yourself.

 

[Anzac]

And I don't agree that anything after 13 minutes is irrelevant in a 90 minute match. ManU were 0-2 down at Home v Spuds & scored 5 after the break.

Well that left us needing 4... and we weren't playing Sp**s.

So does that mean that the effort & performance from the manager & players is meaningless as a result? Out not with a bang but a whimper? The end result of the match may have been rendered almost meaningless, but not the manner of it.

 

[sabret00the]

Arsenal fan hangs himself in Kenya

:shock:

Sad for his family but sadly i'm hopeful it wakes up Wenger.

 

[j'nuh]

Arsenal fan hangs himself in Kenya

:shock:

Sad for his family but sadly i'm hopeful it wakes up Wenger.

Arsenal fan hangs himself in Kenya

:shock:

Wenger can tell his family Arsenal is a young team, average age 21, and we lost because of the lack of sharpness...

RIP

Disgracefully, unbeleivably idiotic comments. You total cretins. This guy is a f*cking football manager. Its a sport. Trying to extend some sort of responsibility to him for some nutter killing himself is completely out of order. Idiots.

 

[True Gooner]

Disgracefully, unbeleivably idiotic comments. You total cretins. This guy is a f*cking football manager. Its a sport. Trying to extend some sort of responsibility to him for some nutter killing himself is completely out of order. Idiots.

This.

 

[ricky1985]

We collapsed mentally. There is a gulf in quality but it's not as big as yesterday's game made it out to be.

That's exactly it. They are a better team than us no doubt about it, but there is nowhere near as much in it as yesterday made it look. We absolutely went after the crazy 3 minutes that saw an unfortunate mistake followed up by a moment of brilliance. We were shell shocked from that moment on.

I still maintain that with two or three of the right players brought in, this team could be as good as any in the world. Whether or not Wenger is going to do that is another point entirely.

I don't think we were outcoached, I don't think we were outfought, I think we simply lack quality in key areas of the pitch, and experience in general. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[progman07]

Arsenal fan hangs himself in Kenya

:shock:

Sad for his family but sadly i'm hopeful it wakes up Wenger.

Arsenal fan hangs himself in Kenya

:shock:

Wenger can tell his family Arsenal is a young team, average age 21, and we lost because of the lack of sharpness...

RIP

Disgracefully, unbeleivably idiotic comments. You total cretins. This guy is a f*cking football manager. Its a sport. Trying to extend some sort of responsibility to him for some nutter killing himself is completely out of order. Idiots.

Are you still under the shock of losing the semi? Nobody thinks Wenger's responsible for anyone's death.

 

[goonerwarsh]

We collapsed mentally. There is a gulf in quality but it's not as big as yesterday's game made it out to be.

That's exactly it. They are a better team than us no doubt about it, but there is nowhere near as much in it as yesterday made it look. We absolutely went after the crazy 3 minutes that saw an unfortunate mistake followed up by a moment of brilliance. We were shell shocked from that moment on.

I still maintain that with two or three of the right players brought in, this team could be as good as any in the world. Whether or not Wenger is going to do that is another point entirely.

I don't think we were outcoached, I don't think we were outfought, I think we simply lack quality in key areas of the pitch, and experience in general. Nothing more, nothing less.

I couldn't agree more with you Ricky

 

[irishgunnerz]

We collapsed mentally. There is a gulf in quality but it's not as big as yesterday's game made it out to be.

I agree. The gulf in skill is not immense, certainly not insurmountable. But we're mentally fragile with no real leadership on the pitch. The first goal was a shock, freak slip out of the blue -but teams like United get up, get back on their feet and drive on - like they did in the Sp**s game. We seem very frail mentally.

It wasnt lack of ability cost us last season - it was a collapse in confidence. We were demoloishing teams until the Eduardo/Birmingham incident where we lost a player in horrific circumstances and concided a dubious penalty in the last minutes. It should have spuured the team on, but we just never got it going after that.

Even this year, on paper last night when seen both teams announced, first thought was - this is do-able! Then we concede early and proceed to act like headless chickens

 

[j'nuh]

Are you still under the shock of losing the semi? Nobody thinks Wenger's responsible for anyone's death.

Why exactly were you proposing that he would have to offer the guys family excuses then?

 

[Anzac]

Unfortunately the world is full of such sad & lost people and football is not exempt to their impact on any number of levels. From Shankley saying that football is more important than religion(???), to 'football tribalism' & hooligans, to fans killing member's of their national team following a loss, or kidnapping player's children for ransom, to nations starting a short lived war over the result of a WC qualifying game.

Sport will always be one of a number of such universal focuses that brings out the best & worst of people. But in no way should anyone associated with the game be implied as having any responsibility or accountability for any of these activities, unless they individually look to provoke or incense people like Di Canio's facist salute etc.

AW may be responsible for any number of things good or bad as manager, but this is definately NOT one of them.

 

[General]

Oh come one. Everyone on here was begging for 4-4-2 and sharpended their knives for if Wenger dared play anything else with any other players than the ones that played. Fans need to learn their lesson just as much as Wenger.

Did Wenger really play 4-4-2 though?

We only started playing 4-4-2 after the disaster of going 2-0 down.

 

[Captain]

and for the eight minutes or so we were playing 4-5-1 we looked to have more attacking verve and a higher tempo than we had at any other point in the tie.

 

[hackajack]

We didn't play 442 at any stage (we never do). We played 4231 (as we always do) started with RvP wide and Nasri in the hole and swapped 'em.