Gabriel Martinelli: Dogged and Determined

[Batman]

Hearing that they've just recently discovered letting Robben cut inside = bad.

Huge if true.

Next they'll figure out that Messi can pick a pass.

 

[Thrice]

I wonder if he'd be more suited playing the right side. He's right-footed, but he rarely cuts inside, so being a right-footed LW should be more of a disadvantage for him if anything.

Obviously he's not taking Saka's place, but if we bring in another LW for next season, maybe Martinelli would be a good rotation player for the RW spot because Nelson isn't that.

 

[MartiSaka]

I’ve seen him go clean through in the past couple weeks against relatively fast defenders and he’s still had the time/space to get a shot together providing his technique was good enough.

You seem to watch him closer than me though so maybe you’re right.

I don’t think any prem team that can afford his wages would actually sign him. They all have wingers who are better/similar.

Especially now that his stalker Klopp is leaving, he definitely had a hard on for him.

 

[Trilly]

Certain men on here can't wait to slag of Nelli.

Do we need another pacy wide forward?

Absolutely!


Should we get rid of Gabby after an indifferent season adjusting to a different way of playing, dealing with injuries & never having a settled left side of the pitch?


STFU JOKERS

Why are you so emotional?

 

[A_G]

Certain men on here can't wait to slag of Nelli.

Do we need another pacy wide forward?

Absolutely!


Should we get rid of Gabby after an indifferent season adjusting to a different way of playing, dealing with injuries & never having a settled left side of the pitch?


STFU JOKERS

It’s a legit debate whether a player who needs the absolute ideal conditions to succeed should be first choice at a club like this.

 

[Blankety Blank]

Why are you so emotional?

Football fans get emotional bro. 95% of people on here wanted the manager sacking at a time and this place was full of over emotional little girls. Tbh I'm just defending a young player who was excellent for us last season.
I know he's not your type of guy but just find it pathetic how young players/managers get written off so quickly. Give Martinelli a settled right hand side like Saks has and an injury free season and he's an excellent option.

Leo is doing real well at the mo so he's on the bench. Doesn't mean he should be moved on.

 

[Rasmi]

Such a limited player. When he ran into that long ball and just had to slip in Jesus he tries to control the ball and casemiro nicks it. He just don’t see the game unless he controls it and look up

 

[Sanchez11]

I love the kid but im starting to think we need someone better. Might need some rehab or something.

 

[pigge]

Needs to play in midfield for half a year

 

[Blankety Blank]

It’s a legit debate whether a player who needs the absolute ideal conditions to succeed should be first choice at a club like this.

Yes a debate is fine but I don't like how players get written off & so easily replaced.

He also doesn't seem to be 1st choice at the mo as Leo is starting

Sure, he's not perfect but make no mistake still a very good player in his position.

Don't forgot We are talking about the top end of the game.

Ok I will give you the call so who do you replace him with who is better in all aspects

I will even give you big money, Let's go spend 80-100m


Is vini jr gonna leave Madrid?

Leao has been in & out this season.

Raphina is good on his day but again no guarantee.

Anthony Gordon ( imho a similar type) but be honest are we sure he's an upgrade?

The kid cost us 6m ffs. He has pace, workrate & is great defensively. He hopefully can/will improve his allround game but no doubt is a decent baller, his tenacity has benefited us, see the goal against Liverpool. he is not just some speed merchant like Traore or step over flair guy with little end product to show for it like ASM that certain men on here loved.

People really need to appreciate good different profile squad players that we have & how they may not be so easy to replace. Do I want another wide player who can take the load off Saks & others?
Yes.

But the real question is Do you get rid of very important young members of the squad who can improve like Gabby when going for top honours?

Ok if someone offers mega money as with any player it's a convo.

But let's be honest we have other squad players rather than Gabby who we can upgrade.

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

He has to figure things out and quick I don't want him to be sold he amazing player but Arteta don't wait forever

 

[Rasmi]

Yes a debate is fine but I don't like how players get written off & so easily replaced.

He also doesn't seem to be 1st choice at the mo as Leo is starting

Sure, he's not perfect but make no mistake still a very good player in his position.

Don't forgot We are talking about the top end of the game.

Ok I will give you the call so who do you replace him with who is better in all aspects

I will even give you big money, Let's go spend 80-100m


Is vini jr gonna leave Madrid?

Leao has been in & out this season.

Raphina is good on his day but again no guarantee.

Anthony Gordon ( imho a similar type) but be honest are we sure he's an upgrade?

The kid cost us 6m ffs. He has pace, workrate & is great defensively. He hopefully can/will improve his allround game but no doubt is a decent baller, his tenacity has benefited us, see the goal against Liverpool. he is not just some speed merchant like Traore or step over flair guy with little end product to show for it like ASM that certain men on here loved.

People really need to appreciate good different profile squad players that we have & how they may not be so easy to replace. Do I want another wide player who can take the load off Saks & others?
Yes.

But the real question is Do you get rid of very important young members of the squad who can improve like Gabby when going for top honours?

Ok if someone offers mega money as with any player it's a convo.

But let's be honest we have other squad players rather than Gabby who we can upgrade.

He is on 170k a week. If he doesn’t improve soon offcourse he will have to be moved on. His wages makes his position more untenable if he isn’t improving soon.

 

[ksarp]

GMart's problems are fixable. He can rectify them with more tape study and committing to playing smart soccer. Defense/Decision making are his his pain points.

 

[Trilly]

Such a limited player. When he ran into that long ball and just had to slip in Jesus he tries to control the ball and casemiro nicks it. He just don’t see the game unless he controls it and look up

It’s these little things. A few games ago it was deciding to go for goal when he could have given Saka a tap-in.

Both times we won anyway and the fans won’t remember but you can bet Mikel and the coaching staff are losing faith in him everytime he does something like that. You just can’t have that kind of lack of awareness/decision making at this level.

I’ve always said he’s a good prospect but the guy is on 180kpw now, that has implications. We need him to work because as things are now he’s not good enough for the clubs who can afford him and too expensive for the ones he’s good enough for.

 

[Batman]

I wonder if he'd be more suited playing the right side. He's right-footed, but he rarely cuts inside, so being a right-footed LW should be more of a disadvantage for him if anything.

Obviously he's not taking Saka's place, but if we bring in another LW for next season, maybe Martinelli would be a good rotation player for the RW spot because Nelson isn't that.

Nah he looks even worse on the right, totally uncomfortable. He's looked really poor every time he's been there. The reality is that right now you have to say that he is not the level of player that can start regularly on a PL winning team so what he's got to do is put the work in to progress his game. We need to see something new in his game by the time preseason starts. He's got to have something more in his bag or at best he's a bench option.

We are quickly becoming an elite team and elite teams have got to have elite standards everywhere. Nobody can take their position for granted as we should always be looking to improve anywhere we can. Look at Madrid, they have the best pure LW in the world by a wide margin and they're probably going to move him central to accommodate the one guy more dangerous than him from the areas he likes to operate in. We need that level of ruthlessness to reach our full potential as a squad and to ensure that we are not wasting the best years of the truly elite players in the team.

 

[Rasmi]

It’s these little things. A few games ago it was deciding to go for goal when he could have given Saka a tap-in.

Both times we won anyway and the fans won’t remember but you can bet Mikel and the coaching staff are losing faith in him everytime he does something like that. You just can’t have that kind of lack of awareness/decision making at this level.

I’ve always said he’s a good prospect but the guy is on 180kpw now, that has implications.

People really think you can coach him to see things. If that worked Adam Traore would have become the best winger in the world. No amount of coaches simplify the game for him and tell him to do the same thing over

As football is unpredictable he will find himself in situations like today or the saka situation. Remember against Liverpool last season last min when he could free saka. It’s simply not good enough at this level

 

[MaraDon]

Not good enough, we should be seriously looking at improving our left wing next window.

 

[TheEliteMaster100_]

It’s these little things. A few games ago it was deciding to go for goal when he could have given Saka a tap-in.

Both times we won anyway and the fans won’t remember but you can bet Mikel and the coaching staff are losing faith in him everytime he does something like that. You just can’t have that kind of lack of awareness/decision making at this level.

I’ve always said he’s a good prospect but the guy is on 180kpw now, that has implications. We need him to work because as things are now he’s not good enough for the clubs who can afford him and too expensive for the ones he’s good enough for.

Here's the clip if people want reference. Wonderful ball from Tomi with his weak foot.


Just poor from Martinelli...

 

[Rasmi]

Not good enough, we should be seriously looking at improving our left wing next window.

We gonna have atleast another season people trying to justify him based on stats only. If he gets on the end of few balls and get few goals they will cling to that. But he is simply too limited of footballer to ever be good enough here

 

[Blankety Blank]

He is on 170k a week. If he doesn’t improve soon offcourse he will have to be moved on. His wages makes his position more untenable if he isn’t improving soon.

He has struggled with injuries and an unreliable left side where he hasn't been able to build up solid consistent relationships with teammates (see contrast to right side)
Leo has done well & tbf is rightly benching him

Ok if you want get rid of Gabby and give us ur replacement on low wages & transfer fee

Here's the clip if people want reference. Wonderful ball from Tomi with his weak foot.


Just poor from Martinelli...

Rather harsh criticism that can happen, the flight of the ball took it towards the defender.

He read the chopback.
If that was Saliba you say top defending