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Him and Partey is our best midfield duo. The problem is that you simply can't rely on Xhaka. He's a walking red card waiting to happen.
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Granit Xhaka: Xhak Off?
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Country: Norway
Riou
In The Winchester, Waiting For This To Blow Over
Country: Northern Ireland
Player:Gabriel
Would like to know what the stats are, when we start Partey and Xhaka together, in terms of wins/defeats.
Always feel pretty confident, when we have those 2 playing together...we can upgrade on Granit, but feel we a have a bit of an underrated midfield duo these days.
Always feel pretty confident, when we have those 2 playing together...we can upgrade on Granit, but feel we a have a bit of an underrated midfield duo these days.
freeglennhelder2
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Country: England
Player:Elneny
Early in his Arsenal career used to smash one in from distance every once and a while, what happened to those days, was it all a dream? I used to read Word Up magazine.
grange
Losing my brain cells 🥸
Country: USA
Player:Havertz
Wenger coached it out of him and El Neny. Arteta coached it out of Partey too.
freeglennhelder2
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Country: England
Player:Elneny
Prem games lost with xhaktey midfield 2 (+2 lost in without combo)
Prem games drawn with xhaktey midfield 0 (+5 drawn in without combo)
Prem games won with xhaktey midfield 6 (+3 won in without combo)
Batman
Head of the Wayne foundation for benching Nketiah
Country: USA
Player:Saliba
Spot fixing, placing bets up in the limousine
Red Cards hanging on the wall
Every Saturday a mistake, playin' Artetaball
CountChocula
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It will be a fairy tale finish if we achieve Top 4 with Xhaka for first time ever and immediately sell him for 100M to Mourinho.
yorch44
Commander of the Pelotudo Brigade
Specially because he can't run... So I agree in that part.
samshere
Why so serieuse?
Yeah, but we've finished within 1 point off top four while he was partnering Torreira, currently plying his trade in Serie A. Same thing in Emery's first season while partnering a raw Guendouzi. Even last season, Partey was injured for a majority of the season, then Xhaka was playing as a left back, missed his regulation 3 matches due to red card.
This season, we're pretty much in the top four, while playing without a striker. Though its possible and actually very likely that we fall short of the target, don't think its fair to blame Xhaka for it.
Player:Saliba
It's not about blaming Xhaka solely. His near omnipresence in the worst set of Arsenal teams in 30+ years is telling though. He is both a contributor to our medicority and a beneficiary.
samshere
Why so serieuse?
Again, its poor reasoning. Saka and Tierney have been part of Arsenal teams that finished 8th twice, they contribute as much to our position as does Xhaka. Xhaka Arsenal teams have finished 5th(off top four by one point), 6th, 5th(off top four by 1 point), 8th, 8th. Whereas Saka and Tierney Arsenal teams would have finished 8th, 8th. League position wise Xhaka teams have performed better than Saka, Tierney teams.
RacingPhoton
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The guy single handedly ****ed up at least 2 games for us every season. He is not to blame?
Riou
In The Winchester, Waiting For This To Blow Over
Country: Northern Ireland
Player:Gabriel
If he can get us back in Top 4, he will have been a relatively successful signing...kinda mad to think that, considering all his mistakes 
Already won 2 FA cups (and 2 Community Shields) here, just needs Champions League (after taking us out of it in the first place) and the man will have done it all!
Already won 2 FA cups (and 2 Community Shields) here, just needs Champions League (after taking us out of it in the first place) and the man will have done it all!
Country: Nigeria
Player:Saliba
One top four finish in 6 years.If he can get us back in Top 4, he will have been a relatively successful signing...kinda mad to think that, considering all his mistakes
Already won 2 FA cups (and 2 Community Shields) here, just needs Champions League (after taking us out of it in the first place) and the man will have done it all!
StefanB
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Xhaka is a good player, but he's not good enough for what we want. It's as simple as that.
I'd love for him to be a backup/competition for Ruben Neves, but I doubt he'd like that.
I'd love for him to be a backup/competition for Ruben Neves, but I doubt he'd like that.
Player:Saliba
It's not poor reasoning when you've also watched the games. I'm fully aware correlation isn't causation. Xhaka is one of the major causes of us being where we are.
You disagree with me which is fine. I am of the opinion Xhaka is a poor midfielder. We won't go anywhere until he leaves
Country: England
Then certain man should stop extending/selecting/starting him tbh.
The guy doesn’t start or slap the armband on himself.
Player:Saliba
For real. He's emblematic of all that's been wrong with us for years. Good enough to be selected in this team which isn't good enough to qualify for the Champions League.
Influential and charismatic enough to be captain in this team that lacks true leaders or charisma
samshere
Why so serieuse?
Thats easy, he's currently playing in a team where his mistakes end up costing us games. In a team like Liverpool/City, his mistakes would be covered up by his teammates, either by direct defensive intervention(like that Ake clearance off the line after Dias headed the ball into his own net) or by offensive intervention, scoring more goals rendering the mistake insignificant.
Also the mistakes he makes are easy to remember whereas the positive contributions(such as the goal saving header yesterday) isn't as memorable.
Of course he's one of the causes of our current position. But how much he's responsible for our current position isn't something that can be easily estimated. The only thing you have to go on his how the team plays when he has a decent partner next to him, and we have dominated the midfield whenever him and Partey were together and in form.
Exactly right. We're very close to top four, missing out by 1 point for 2 seasons while he was here and I reckon we'll be off by not more than 3 points this season as well. The fact that successive managers have included him in our best shot for top four is a point in his favour, and shouldn't really be used to argue otherwise.
RacingPhoton
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Even if we believe that the rest of the team has to be blamed for not cleaning up the mess caused by Xhaka, it probably applies only for errors leading to goal. He has conceded most penalties as a player ever since he has joined. Got many red cards too. How can his team mates possibly cover up for penalties and red cards?
Most players make positive contributions like this. Clearances are part and parcel of the game. It is not something phenomenal that this somehow makes up for all the mistakes he makes.
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