samshere
Why so serieuse?
He's not conceded an inordinate number of penalties for a defensive player. Red cards I'll give you, but I feel thats covered by the defensive contributions he does.
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Granit Xhaka: Xhak Off?
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RacingPhoton
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6 penalties conceded, 4 red cards and 9 errors leading to goals. You saw one header in a match and all of a sudden his defensive contributions are great?
Country: England
Player:Rice
I don't think Xhaka has been fundamental to our decline on the pitch. Though he has been an issue.
He's more a totem or symbolic of that era.
Not really top 4 starter quality, has fairly frequent insane moments / rushes of blood to the head. Has a pretty cocky attitude to boot. It's not really a surprise fans zero in on him for criticism. At times the criticism has been excessive and over the line but he's brought a fair bit of it on himself too.
Most Arsenal fans won't remember him fondly after he's left I feel.
He's more a totem or symbolic of that era.
Not really top 4 starter quality, has fairly frequent insane moments / rushes of blood to the head. Has a pretty cocky attitude to boot. It's not really a surprise fans zero in on him for criticism. At times the criticism has been excessive and over the line but he's brought a fair bit of it on himself too.
Most Arsenal fans won't remember him fondly after he's left I feel.
samshere
Why so serieuse?
Thats the only thing I remember, which goes with what I was saying earlier. Red cards, penalties are easily documentable, defensive contributions not so much6 penalties conceded, 4 red cards and 9 errors leading to goals. You saw one header in a match and all of a sudden his defensive contributions are great?
Make
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Country: Spain
Player:Ødegaard
I justified Xhaka a lot in the past, but it's time to say goodbye... He needs to move to Roma with Mourinho because he's not gonna play comfortable with Arsenal anymore. You either love it or hate it but we play better when he plays but it's not enough with the team we're building now.
We have to sell him alongside Elneny and signing 2 new midfielders with other skills and experienced players to help the team. In the last game, I saw there was nobody in the midfield to play with the ball (Xhaka was open on the left side and Thomas did the same on the right side). We need a leader in the midfield because playing from the back is too important to get the ball from the defenders to forwards and that role is quite importat in terms of football.
If you look how City play, they control the game by midfielders and move the ball as fast as they can. Arteta wants to play in the same way and we need 2 good midfielders being leaders on and off the pitch.
We have to sell him alongside Elneny and signing 2 new midfielders with other skills and experienced players to help the team. In the last game, I saw there was nobody in the midfield to play with the ball (Xhaka was open on the left side and Thomas did the same on the right side). We need a leader in the midfield because playing from the back is too important to get the ball from the defenders to forwards and that role is quite importat in terms of football.
If you look how City play, they control the game by midfielders and move the ball as fast as they can. Arteta wants to play in the same way and we need 2 good midfielders being leaders on and off the pitch.
Riou
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I also feel he is weirdly pretty good defensively.
Most of his issues come from moments of absolute madness, it's not like he is always out of position or anything and I have seen plenty of games where he has won his midfield battle.
Honestly feel him and Partey are one of the best pairs in the league, they don't even play in a back 5 and we play with an out and out 10 so it's not like they are protected...they have to get through a lot of work.
Look at the Wolves game...Wolves absolutely bossed United and Sp**s away, but didn't do anything when it was 11 v 11 against us, at their ground too...that was mainly down to Partey and Xhaka, imo.
Don't get me wrong, we should be looking to move on from Granit, too much has gone on here with him...but he can play a part in getting us back in the Top Four.
Most of his issues come from moments of absolute madness, it's not like he is always out of position or anything and I have seen plenty of games where he has won his midfield battle.
Honestly feel him and Partey are one of the best pairs in the league, they don't even play in a back 5 and we play with an out and out 10 so it's not like they are protected...they have to get through a lot of work.
Look at the Wolves game...Wolves absolutely bossed United and Sp**s away, but didn't do anything when it was 11 v 11 against us, at their ground too...that was mainly down to Partey and Xhaka, imo.
Don't get me wrong, we should be looking to move on from Granit, too much has gone on here with him...but he can play a part in getting us back in the Top Four.
Pop Tart
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If we do get top 4 it would be very ironic given people on here solely blaming xhaka for us not being a top 4 team since his signature.
He is a decent player but is no spring chicken so you cannot iron out those very negative points about him which has a affect on games massively.
He seems to not give a **** about us given how willing he gets sent off, his disingenuous and smug apologies etc.
He can **** off end of the season.
He is a decent player but is no spring chicken so you cannot iron out those very negative points about him which has a affect on games massively.
He seems to not give a **** about us given how willing he gets sent off, his disingenuous and smug apologies etc.
He can **** off end of the season.
Wizzard
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Look at him, disrespecting the club and the badge once again. Can't stand it anymore, this was one of the most embaracing things i've ever seen. Can't wait until he is finally gone!
Riou
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Country: Northern Ireland
Player:Gabriel
The club should be the one to stop giving Xhaka the armband, not Granit himself 
Glad he did it though, he shouldn't be captain anymore, so hopefully this is the end of it...played well.
Glad he did it though, he shouldn't be captain anymore, so hopefully this is the end of it...played well.
Country: Scotland
Player:Gabriel
The club should be the one to stop giving Xhaka the armband, not Granit himself
Glad he did it though, he shouldn't be captain anymore, so hopefully this is the end of it...played well.
Yeah don't think he did anything wrong there at all. He knows he shouldn't captain us again, a bit sad for him that we've put him in that position again. Made him look bad.
Taneruit
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Country: Switzerland
Player:Zinchenko
Wondering if its frustration with how the club handled the whole captain situation over the years, with him at times wearing it, and then not, and then again.The club should be the one to stop giving Xhaka the armband, not Granit himself
Probably just tired of the whole situation, especially in light of the recent captaincy talks. So, he basically just said ***** it, if you don't want to take a stance, I will*
Not like he didn't do captainy things before and after that part or didn't show effort.
Pop Tart
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I think he just wanted to see the game out then rather worry about being captain. Had a good game. Still would sell him end of the season
Player:Saliba
Sickening guy for real. Can't wait for him to leave. The club needs to stop giving him chances to disrespect it and the captaincy ffs
Country: Canada
Isn't Tierney next in line after Laca anyway? He may have just been telling Eddie it shouldn't go to him when KT is on the field.
Who cares anyway, he played well and he'll be moving on in the summer.
Who cares anyway, he played well and he'll be moving on in the summer.
RunTheTrap
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Don’t know why he tried to make a scene today with the armband. It’s not like he hasn’t worn it before. Anyways he was good today, but he’s a weird guy at times.
Handbags over the armbag aside, his position in the last few games is really interesting. He's defo pushing up a lot higher, making it a 433 on possession, then drops back next to Partey when we don't have it. It does give us more options when we have the ball.
Country: England
Player:Rice
I thought he had a good game.
Got to make a big deal about the armband though It's like he needed everyone to know he wasn't going to be captain.
Sometimes he just doesn't help himself, as he deserves a lot of credit for his performance today.
Got to make a big deal about the armband though
It's like he needed everyone to know he wasn't going to be captain.Sometimes he just doesn't help himself, as he deserves a lot of credit for his performance today.
Very good game today not sure why he refuse the armband maybe he feel not captain worthy for this club and he made peace with it.
boonthegoon
Arteta In by November
Country: USA
Player:Ødegaard
I don't understand.. After than incident he has taken the arm band few times when auba or Laca had to go off.. Why today alone?
RacingPhoton
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I have this feeling that he never wanted to stay this year. Wasn't the one year extension due to the fact that there was a clause in his contract that said the club has rights to extend it? Given how open he was about joining Roma, it looked like Mikel/Edu forced him to stay.
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