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Joe Willock: Not Your Average Joe

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by Marjorie, Aug 18, 2020.

  1. RunTheTrap

    RunTheTrap Well-Known Member

    MOTM. I don’t understand why people are so critical of him for not being Özil. He doesn’t have the final pass or vision yet but he’s a handful when he’s running at you, great 3rd man runs and quite skilful for his size. I would definitely start him against United.
     
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  2. DasBootist

    DasBootist Well-Known Member

    Aw damn, I was hoping for 1st post. He was dominant.
     
  3. The_Playmaker

    The_Playmaker Established Member Trusted

    Partey and Willock double pivot would be interesting. Tuck in a full back when we have possession and let Willock break into the box.
     
  4. MutableEarth

    MutableEarth Bloody awesome NSFW avatars Trusted

    I want to see this:

    Willock-Partey-Saka
    Pepe-Auba-Nelson

    Or the Partey-Willock double pivot with Nelson central and Saka on the LW, Pepe RW, Auba up top.

    Would love to see it.
     
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  5. hydrofluoric acid

    hydrofluoric acid Many Men Wish Death Upon Me

    He has talent imo. A lot of good things to work with.
     
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  6. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    Loved his performance today he a midfielder that can offer something different than the players we got even tho some of his decisions in final 3rd are questionable
     
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  7. The_Playmaker

    The_Playmaker Established Member Trusted

    I prefer the 4231 as it allows Partey to break forward. In your 3 man midfield he has to hold.
    Also prefer Nelson on the left. Saka is better at finding space.

    Nelson really has worked hard. He looks so quick.
     
  8. MutableEarth

    MutableEarth Bloody awesome NSFW avatars Trusted

    Definitely. I want Nelson a lot closer to goal, feel he's more devastating when he gets to shoot. Saka is the better creator IMO so I could see them dovetailing really well if they're in the same side and close together.

    I think Willock solves a LOT of problems down the right because he makes good runs into those areas in the half space that gives Pepe a lot more space and time to go 1v1. That said, I think in a pivot it can still work really well. I think any combination of these 6 players would be very interesting to see personally.
     
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  9. The_Playmaker

    The_Playmaker Established Member Trusted

    Thinking about it more. Your line up allows us to invert Tierney. Pepe needs an overlap, which means the left side needs to have players comfortable right on the touch line. Nelson and Saka in combo with Belerin Pepe and Willock on the other side is pretty balance. Partey can also break forward if a full back tucks in.
     
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  10. Big Poppa

    Big Poppa Well-Known Member Trusted

    This shone through. It bodes well that he’s been marginalised yet rather than sulk and moan, step up his work rate.

    I’ve never understood the ‘nothing player’ comments about Willock.

    He has an incredible ceiling if nurtured the right way.
     
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  11. He has a tendency to get a heavy tunnel-vision close to the final third. I remember a few episodes in different games last season where he had a clear passing lane to Nelson and/or Saka, who were stood ready for the worlds easiest tap ins. And every time he chose to blast it from an impossible angle out wide or ran into a wall of defenders.

    If he can rid himself of that, and pay attention to his surroundings in the final third, then i agree there could be a good player there. Its probably got more to do with him being young and feeling the need to prove himself rather than lacking the footballing brains. In time he'll probably outgrow it.
     
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  12. MutableEarth

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    It's very much balanced. It does require Partey to hold at times but I think he can alternate with Willock as he's a pretty handy #6 when he wants to be. One things for sure - that's certainly not a flat midfield, there's a lot of movement and variety in it. However, I think we're going to continue seeing lots of Xhaka and Ceballos regardless. Not that either has been especially bad IMO, but their profile is one we need to start moving away from. Elneny has been my surprise package of the season though, so I'm wondering if keeping him is a good idea.

    Tierney-Saka-Nelson connection on the left side and Bellerin-Willock-Pepe on the other though gives us a lot more balance IMO and with a strong spine of Gabriel-Partey-Auba through the middle to build with and Auba at the tip of the sword, it already looks more threatening IMO. Just need Willock to build on this performance more. I have strong doubts he and Nelson will touch the field vs United sadly, but I'm looking forward to the Molde game for sure just to see how much confidence both players take into that game.
     
  13. Big Poppa

    Big Poppa Well-Known Member Trusted

    I think that has a lot to do with his restricted cameo roles in utility positions. He’s not a natural attacking player imo, but rather a player with athleticism and guile that allows him to get forward.

    I feel that, like Reiss, if he knew he had the backing of the coach to play for 90 minutes in his best position, he’d steadily improve his decision making in the final third, as he wouldn’t feel he has to make a statement.
     
  14. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    Going to be sitting on the bench for the next month doing nothing. With Pepe.

    While Willian plays every minute and just jogs around.
     
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  15. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    He’s only 20? Big player for us.
     
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  16. Big Poppa

    Big Poppa Well-Known Member Trusted

    Sadly I think you’re right
     
  17. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford Trusted

    What I gauged from his performance is that this team needs a top class version of him for right now.

    I still think he’ll be more of a late bloomer though and will have to leave the club but so hope he proves me wrong.
     
  18. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford Trusted

    Also think it’s no coincidence that Pepe had his most influential (in terms of touches) game with Willock making those runs in and around the right half space.

    We usually completely neglect that side leaving Pepe 2v1 at all times.
     
  19. DasBootist

    DasBootist Well-Known Member

    From reddit:

    Joe Willock's game by numbers vs. Dundalk: 88% passing accuracy 85 touches 17 touches in opp. box 7 ball recoveries 3 take-ons completed 3 shots 3 chances created 2 shots on target 1 goal 1 assist
     
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  20. RunTheTrap

    RunTheTrap Well-Known Member

    I like having Willock on the pitch for this reason. He’s one of the few midfielders we have that has can play well and have a positive influence on the right hand side. Saka, Cellabos, Xhaka, ESR all prefer the left but Willock, Partey and Elneny can do it on the right. That will definitely help us in terms of balancing the sides and hopefully move on from the left hand bias we have.
     
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