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liverpool v arsenal player ratings (and match summary)

arsmile

Established Member
The day our season finally ended after a month long disaster

(i posted this in a couple of places, but took me too long to write so i might as well shove it everywhere...)

Never before have i felt the contrast of agony to ecstasy so soon as the 84th to the 85th minute. Dumfahking arse commentator said the 4th goal deems the penalty decision irrelevant...yeah cos cesc would have been our only defender against babel if we were still winning, dum c*nt. Our season fell apart in such a spectacular fashion.

2 inncorrect penalty decisions conned us out of that match...if toures’ foul was a penalty the hleb’s was 12 penalty’s and a 16 match game. I think toure was absolute dogcrap all night defensivly but that was not a penalty, come on.....

We can discuss the reasons for this season going to po until our fingertips bleed and our keyboards disintegrate, and i have been saying that again and again that we cant blame officials and that it is our own fault. But if either of them decisions were correct then we would be in the semis, diabolical referring...i though the European referring standard was meant to be higher...i tell you i get frustrated with premiership refs but give me a howard webb and he’s have got them right. Our 2 matchs and who do we get given? Kuyts’ godfather and a swede that is only in the completion because anders frisk got scared of mourinhio and gave up his position as the swede quota. Reffing to that standard may be acceptable when you are officiating ABBA fc vs HOTUB and SAUNA utd, but that was just pathetic (sorry for any minor racism)...you’d think our football purist philosophy would make us popular with game officials ... apparently not.

infact, in the wider context, consider the wrong decisions made against us (i’m thinking Birmingham pen, all the goals disallowed for our offside/allowed for the oppo offside)..and bear in mind that the last month has been because of our reaction to the brum game..we’d have the prem tied up and sailed throught to the semi’s of this

Ok, so i’ll get to this match...the ratings bear in mind a great first half hour- but also an awful last 60

Almunia-5.5- i don’t think any of the goals were his fault, and i (as you may well know) have faith in his ability, but did nothing but the bare basics tonight- kicking was accurate, but ade dosent challenge for them so they are pointless,...you cant have a great game if you let in 4 odd goals,

( mind you- reina was far worse, again- terrible on diaby’s goal and his distribution was suicidal )

Toure-3- our worst player- fine going forward...i cant remember and i’m not likely to sit through the pain of watching it again, but he may have had a part to play ina whole host of the goals..just lost players, gave the ref the chance to give the pen, was positionally clueless..this is one diabolical game too many, i want to know what the hell the ivory coast did to their players...eboue, and particularly kolo have been dogshite since they’ve come back, poor poor poor...just poor, where has the player who i thought was one of the best SB’s in the premiership one...apart from the goals he didn’t do his job in times that led to nothing.

Galas-6- thought he did ok today, an inspiration captain he wernt though. No one out there was prepared to take some responsibility for winning the game until Walcott came on. All in all wil was fine

Senderos-4- stupidly booked early on, lost the ‘nimble’ hypia, and was more or less wholly responsibly for their goal and letting them back into a match that, according to the first half hour, was all but ours for the taking. Generally found himself in places he didn’t want to be doing things he didn’t want to do

Clichy-6- was ok, vacated the LB spot too much really when we were chasing the game, hasn’t been good since the brum game

Eboue-4- the complete lack of an end ball deems his presence on the pitch nothing more than a quick wall to bounce the ball of off, usful for 1-2s.....had a golden opportunity to cross to ade and ballsed it up..see toure for the ivory coast player ruining tornament reference....eboue wasn’t maradona in the first place but.........his continual place at RM is one of those great mysteries in life, like the Bermuda triangle, and spontainious human combustion.....and stuff...maybe one day he will spontainious human combust..............then wenger will have to start someone else, no, he’d still start eboue’s charred left foot, mounted on a remote control car, which will, incidently, perhaps do a better job because it isn’t hindered with eboue’s brain- which is, by all accounts, that of a 3 year old hippo (sorry manu, when i get over tonight i’ll retract the above!)

Cesc-6- totally looked like the occasion got to him, when we scored our first goal he did that strange ‘i might cry/ might puke’ face, i couldn’t help but think- that is not a goal to get emotional to, that is a goal to forget about and get on with the job in hand, passing was sloppy- see clichy for ‘hasnt recovered since the brum game’....disregarding Milan...suffered from loosing flams, resorted to the long ball to ade too often, didn’t creating anything- wasn’t the leader he was in the san siro mascerano and alsonso dealt with him like he was Robbie savage


Flamini-7-(for the 20 mins he did)aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh, why did the little scrunt munchling have to get injured, took away urgency, took away leadership, took away a hell of a lot, i think he has been decent in the last month, which is more than i can say for most of our squad...who knows what would have happend if he had stayed on the pitch

Diaby-7- good goal, smack it and see, luckily reina is the worst goalkeeper in the top 8 or 9 prem clubs so in went in..othereise decent- helped the crocked gilb and absent clichy out...probably would have been better off keeping the guy on the pitch seeing as he had a goal, and should be fresh cos of his suspension..has been interminably inconsistent this season, as well as injured..but tonight, couldn’t really fault him

Hleb-5.5- frustrates me more than porn with plotlines....if you asked hleb to pop down the shops to pick up some milk, he would jump on a flight to bemuda, get on the train, change his clothes, go undercover to steal a goat from the local mafia, sto away on a ship carrying cotton going to china, find a tricycle to take him to Tibet (where admittedly he may sort out the political unrest with his smile and wit) and then get a taxi all the way to paris before jumping on the eurostar...and then he’d remember he left the milk on the cotton ship..so he’d just walk into the stop ‘n’ shop to get a pint of milk 200 yards from the door....as always, very little he tried came off....wasnt bad in any real way, just (after the first half hour, like all our players) failed to get a foothold in the game

Ade-6- decent finish on a goal made by Walcott, fluffed another opportunity...the difference between adebayor and torres was the difference between arsenal and Liverpool....inconsistent finishing, dosent challenge for aerial balls...couldn’t time a run off the last defender if his life depended on it...is another one of these players who has been really really poor recently, really, really, really poor- really poor, poor, just really poor

Gilberto-6- tried as hard as his cracking leperlike legs could take him..in all fairness he completely did did job, was solid in defence- obviously provided nothing in attack but, a solid game from him

Walcott-9- for the wonder goal- exactly what we need, he gains 2 point for taking the ball all the way from the edge of our area and putting it on a plate for ade...the urgency we needed, it will probably shatter the poor lad that the team couldn’t let him have his moment of glory

Vanpersie-3- fit my arse....that is all...

What an unmitigated disaster. I’ve blamed the refs in the initial part but i’ve had a little time to cool.....the fact is....i thought that our squad was too weak to cope, i was wrong- it isn’t, we saw at Milan, we say for the first 30 today and the last 30 at Bolton...and just about every pre-brum game...even eboue and diaby can be good..........................but they haven’t been, they just haven’t performed, they mentally crumbled- and maybe that tells you that the geuinly is lacking some mental strength and experience. But galas, flamini, cesc, hleb, ade, vanpersie, ade..they all have the ability to grab the game by the scruff of the neck, but they just plain haven’t, for one reason or another they haven’t taken responsibility.

In that way i’m reluctant to blame wenger as what more could he do, literally crawl in their ears and go to the ‘bottle it’ section of the brain and disenable it.

Our players are prepared to lose everything because they know they have the ‘inexperienced youngsters’ labell to fall back on...it’s not acceptable. And wenger has just perpetuated that- benitez said it isn’t fair to labell us ‘inexperienced youngsters’ anymore...he’s right this team has been in the making for 3 or 4 years.....wenger disagreed, he tried to be a smartass and argue the semantics of the statement citing ages..that’ snot the point and he knows it..it is wenger’s ready made get out clause, if you prepare your get out clause before the match- tell the world and our players about it- that is the wrong message....we’ve been around, we’ve got to the stage where our opponents take us seriously- but we do not take ourselves seriously.

So, i am pretty sure i have contradicted myself on a number of occasions there......but i don’t think this is knee jerky...well actually it is the definition of knee jerking, but it is well considered knee jerking; hell i am a self contradicting oxymoron machine.

So that’s what i think, our season was pushed off the top of a gentle hill at Birmingham, we didn’t have the mental strength, organisation, or leadership, to stand back up and trudge to the front..and everytime we did get back to our feet, some fascist bloke in black came along and ensured our steady progress down the hill...well we’ve hit the bottom of the hill now, it will be a little bit of time (the end of the seaon) before we finally come to rest in a dirty stagnant stream filled with shopping trollies and condoms...but our plave there is assured.

Manu.....we’ll see you on Sunday, we are here for the taking, i would day after that performance half our squad should be dropped.........but i can remember the last time we played a weak team against manu.....mind you it would suit wenger- get your get out clauses out early ‘we errr, we errr we could notter win today, because we field weak team” or whatever

My wrists are slit and i’m moving on to my ankles, it will be my throat by midnight...


Night, all!!

Sorry for the somewhat unorthodox grammar and spelling, this was kind of a stream of consciousness thing! I might go back through this tomorrow and correct it...if i can face it
 

arsmile

Established Member
come on...i posted it in the match thread- knowing it would get burried, and then in the personal articles section that is hardly ever frequented

gimme a break

...dont have to read it you know
 

arsmile

Established Member
i dont get your problem.........if you're not interested ignore it

dont take tonights anger out on me

jeez wont bother in the future

*edit out insult*
 

nazo

Established Member
Not only did you post it in the match thread, you made a new thread here, and a new thread in personal articles. Might as well rename it to match rating and let other people rate the players.
 

AnthonyG

Arse Emeritus
I would just like to say:

**** THE REF

(If other people are going to post willy-nilly, thought I'd join in).

PS Match rating thread seems a good idea; someone change the title.
 

arsmile

Established Member
bluenaz said:
Not only did you post it in the match thread, you made a new thread here, and a new thread in personal articles. Might as well rename it to match rating and let other people rate the players.

i changed the title

i'm sorry but i stand by when and where i posted this- i'm sorry that i spent 90 odd minutes writing a 2000 word match report and then posted it in a couple of different places to give people the chance to read it if they want.

i'm not the one posting off topic- the 9 pages of posts in the match thread that buried any worthwhile post, just arguing amid explitives about whether the couple of pool fans were being out of order by posting.

i'd desagree with you if you were a moderator- but seeing as you're not i guess you have no authority to tell me i have flouted any rules...if a moderator thinks i have been unreasonable- please let me know and we can take a hack-saw to all my posts

- this place does have a reputation for beeing needlessly hostile and authoritarian over posting and you are just perpetuating that by criticising what is a legitimate post and thread, there really is no problem here and a couple of people want to make one


and i dont know to what extent this thread is 'willy nilly'....i dont know whether you commentors have even bohered to read it, but if it is then so what?

the removal of topic regulation was meant to encourage everyone to post a diverse range of threads- i know i wont bother again in the future.
 

mccroix

Well-Known Member
I'll just rate them then:

Almunia 5
Touré 4
Gallas 7
Senderos 2
Clichy 6
Flamini 6
Cesc 6.5
Eboué 0
Diaby 7
Hleb 6.5
Ade 5

Bert 6
Walcott 9
RVP I saw him coming on...to be honest that was the last time I saw him. Fit my arse..
 

stiiphunn

Established Member
Almunia 5
Touré 4
Gallas 7
Senderos 2 - useless.
Clichy 6
Flamini 6
Cesc 6.5
Eboué 6
Diaby 7
Hleb 6.5
Ade 4

Bert 6
Walcott - 10 - amazing run!
RVP - I haven't seen him..

And you were right arsmile to start this thread.
 

Kraig

Established Member
almunia - 5
toure - 4
senderos - 4
gallas - 5
clichy - 5
eboue - 5
flamini - 7
cesc - 7
diaby - 6
hleb - 6
adebayor - 6

gilberto - 6
theo - 8
rvp - 5

senderos deserves low ratings but not things like 2's and 3's! be at least a bit more realistic.

as for the whole thing about this thread. the comments made about making sure people had the chance to read it, they would have had chance if it had only been posted once in arsenal talk. you just wanted some people to hopefully praise you for writing a long article.
 

arsmile

Established Member
Kraig said:
almunia - 5
Touré - 4
senderos - 4
gallas - 5
clichy - 5
eboue - 5
flamini - 7
cesc - 7
diaby - 6
hleb - 6
adebayor - 6

gilberto - 6
theo - 8
rvp - 5

senderos deserves low ratings but not things like 2's and 3's! be at least a bit more realistic.

as for the whole thing about this thread. the comments made about making sure people had the chance to read it, they would have had chance if it had only been posted once in arsenal talk. you just wanted some people to hopefully praise you for writing a long article.

my mistake was posting it first under personal articles...i realsied it would fit better under here, so posted it here and i dont have the authoity to delete the personal articles thread


what is your problem with me? dont be an idiot- i'm not looking for praise at all, i would have made a better job at it if i was, but i would like not to be condemed for posting a thread, with all due respect you dum*rse!!!
 

jay-d

Established Member
Kraig said:
almunia - 5
Touré - 4
senderos - 4
gallas - 5
clichy - 5
eboue - 5
flamini - 7
cesc - 7
diaby - 6
hleb - 6
adebayor - 6

gilberto - 6
theo - 8
rvp - 5

senderos deserves low ratings but not things like 2's and 3's! be at least a bit more realistic.

as for the whole thing about this thread. the comments made about making sure people had the chance to read it, they would have had chance if it had only been posted once in arsenal talk. you just wanted some people to hopefully praise you for writing a long article.

So he made an effort to write a long thread, what's the problem. You're the same one last night defending Liverpool supporters and their right to come on here after being robbed and chat about the game to us and betweeen themselves. Yet you are attacking another gooner at all opportunities. Get a grip!!
 

Kraig

Established Member
im not attacking anyone, but posting in numerous threads gives off the opinion that you want everyone to read your work. ive written lots of articles myself on here so i would not hold that against anyone. at no point have i insulted anyone or said anything untoward, merely stated that it seemed like arsmile was looking for praise. if i am wrong then so be it.

as for sticking up for liverpool fans - i wasnt defending them for being liverpool fans. i was defending against immature fools who let emotions run wild and just insulted people for no good reason! the whole point of a forum is to have discussions, not insult people because you're throwing your toys out.
 

bojed

AM Resident Joker #1
Almunia - 5
Toure - 4
Senderos - 3
Gallas - 7
Clichy - 6
Eboue - 4
Cesc - 6
Flams - 6
Hleb - 6
Diaby - 6.5
Ade - 6

Gilberto - 5
Theo - 8
RvP - Did he even touch the ball?
 

Viper

Established Member
Senderos 0.

Him and the ref were the reason we lost.

Probably the most clueless defender we've had in years. Has zero composure and lacks anticipation.
 

jay-d

Established Member
Anyway my ratings:

Almunia 5 - Didn't think he needed to knock the ball out for a corner for the first goal behind I could be wrong though and his starting position for the final goal was typical Almunia.

Toure 4 - Another inept disply by Kolo, maybe he has over performed for a few seasons?

Gallas 6 - Not much wrong.

Senderos 3 - I know everyone wants him to succeed but these relapses are all too common for a top class CB. It comes down to agility and basics and he's lacking in both, enough is enough.

Clichy 6 - Not much wrong.

Diaby 4.5 - He scored, and had a few good touches and turns but I'm rating him as a wide man and he doesn't hold his position or offer enough protection on the wings, that's why I am rating him down, not his ability and he's not a wide man so I don't blame him.

Cesc 6 - Not his best game but again not much wrong.

Flam - 6

Gilberto 7 - I was actually impressed with him today, done what he had to and mopped up well.

Hleb 6 - Average

Ade 4 - Yes he scored but nothing stuck all night and he was caught offside far too many times. And that miss! What more can I say.

Theo 7.5 - Made a great impact, keep it up.

RVP N/A - annonymous.

REF 0 - You ****, that's about 8 out the last 10 games we've had crucial bad decisions go against us.
 

True Gooner

Established Member
Almunia - 5

Toure - 3.5
Senderos - 3
Gallas - 7
Clichy - 6.5

Hleb - 5.5
Fabregas - 5.5
Flamini - 6 (But at that point in the game everyone was playing well)
Eboue - 5
Diaby - 5.5

Adebayor - 5.5 - Missed a sitter and scored a goal. Vintage Adebayor

Subs-
Walcott - 7
RvP - Didnt see him
Gilberto - 5
 

bojed

AM Resident Joker #1
Viper said:
Senderos 0.

Him and the ref were the reason we lost.

Probably the most clueless defender we've had in years. Has zero composure and lacks anticipation.

Forgetting Luzhny aren't you?

And what about his recent great run before Toure came back from ACN?

Yes Phil was poor last night, I felt like slapping his head, but you're just being a drama queen with your comments up there.
 

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