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Mesut Özil: 2019/20 Performances

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by razörist, Aug 9, 2019.

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Why Isn't Özil Playing?

  1. Simple. Isn’t played for tactical reasons.

    8.5%
  2. Simple. Isn’t played because he isn’t good enough

    27.9%
  3. Falling out with Arteta for some reason

    12.4%
  4. Being frozen out in an effort to get him to leave. Arteta’s hands are tied

    31.8%
  5. Because he didn't take a pay-cut

    16.3%
  6. Personal reasons

    3.1%
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  1. Camus

    Camus Well-Known Member

    Why would we do that? We gain literally nothing from it and actual do Özil a favour.
     
  2. Manberg

    Manberg Predator

    We gain nothing by keeping him. His presence in training is actually a hindrance to squad dynamics and harmony. That's how bad this whole mess has become.
     
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  3. Mrs Bergkamp

    Mrs Bergkamp Well-Known Member

    We gain nothing now but distracting chat and a squad place that we don't fill. We can take the financial hit. Or we pay him all season but tell him to clear out his locker. A part of me feels he might be embarrassed to be bombed out of the club. Who knows, but having him around is useless if he's not playing.
     
  4. Camus

    Camus Well-Known Member

    As long he's still under contract with us we always have the ability to get some type of transfer fee for him. Even if it's a 0.1% chance it's still higher than zero. Why would be forgo that and make it easier for Özil to sign for a new club instantly and get a tidy sign on bonus?

    Also, is he really a hindrance? He's always been well liked by his teammates and it seems like he's got a decent relationship with Arteta beyond that fact he just doesn't suit his vision. He's not a trouble maker like Guendouzi that undermines the manager/coaches.
     
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  5. Manberg

    Manberg Predator

    I want our young players to look up to hard workers. Ballers who play with passion and love of football, if not the badge. Özil is not one of them.

    Why do you think Özil's not demanded a move? Why, despite not playing at all in recent times, do you think his agent came out and said Özil will see out his contract at Arsenal? It's the 350 grand a week, he's happy to collect that rather than play football. This is not the kind of influence I want in the training ground.
     
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  6. Oxeki

    Oxeki New Threads, Old Tweets

    He should be forced out.
    He's a bad example to young players. The likes of saka, ESR, Marty, Nketiah, Nelson and Willock all have an impressionable young mind. Don't want an overpaid diva poisoning them.

    Hopefully, BDR is able sort out this mess and Özil can fück off
     
  7. DanDare

    DanDare Emoji Merchant

    I do think it interesting if he does stay because he's essentially retiring from any form of serious football. I get why he'd see out his contract if he was getting some minutes.

    I suppose he's fine with that but can't believe any serious team will come in for him after he hasn't played for more than a year.
     
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  8. kash2

    kash2 Obsessed With Jury

    why not just buy his contract off. Are we a club that doesnt keep its word?
     
  9. American_Gooner

    American_Gooner Not actually American. Unless Di Marzio says so. Moderator

    How?
     
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  10. kash2

    kash2 Obsessed With Jury

    Arsenal and Özil have an agreement. Arteta is an old friend of his and fellow trophy-drought-breaker, and would have helped everyone come to an agreement. There will be no forcing out.

    The media carnival has ended. Özil is not being humiliated by being made to train with reserves or to sit on the bench...while Arteta is fixing the engine room and playing without a #10.

    We will come to know what the agreement is, but it seems the situation has been resolved and everyone looks happy. We are happy. We won the cup. Özil is happy. Arteta is happy.

    Some chronic people who are still to adjust to the novel fact that you can be a fan without having to keep hating something are also happy for this thread.

    We have a manager worthy of carrying the legacy of Wenger forward. I prefer to let him handle the situation.

    Yesterday, Arteta says Özil should enjoy the trophy and played a part in it (early games) which might mean we haven't seen the last of Mesut on the pitch.

    Thats good enough for now.
     
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  11. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Has Never Seen Our New Signings Play

    How? I’ll await your response, really interested.
     
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  12. Mrs Bergkamp

    Mrs Bergkamp Well-Known Member

    I wish I could generate cash the way this thread generates pages. It's magical :lol:
     
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  13. GoonerJeeves

    GoonerJeeves Up The Terriers

    Not much to see here. The player will honour his contract. The club will honour the contract. The player will see out said contract.
     
  14. Oxeki

    Oxeki New Threads, Old Tweets

    By any means necessary
     
  15. kash2

    kash2 Obsessed With Jury

    played a part in the only 4 trophies won in the last 15 years by Arsenal. Deserves every penny.
     
  16. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Has Never Seen Our New Signings Play

    Like what? Because there is contract law, regulations.

    Didn’t Raul try some dirty tactics to remove Abidal after he was diagnosed with cancer?

    Why not just pay him off? You can get rid off him right now. Just do the right thing and pay the man his contract.

    I wouldn’t want your employer thinking of ways to shaft you either.
     
  17. Riou

    Riou Non-Stop Nostalgia

    He seems to be a very popular player with his teammates, so I don't think that is a concern...if he wants to see out his deal, we just have to let him, the club offered him the contact after all.

    Although it hasn't turned out exactly the way we wanted when we signed him in 2013, he has still had some great moments at the club...that photo of all the Arsenal fans outside the Emirates with his shirt after he signed was amazing, plus 4 FA Cups (and 3 Community Shields) he has been successful here...became a World Champion as as Arsenal player too and made my girl an Arsenal fan.

    Just think about the times he was quality for us, he will be gone next summer anyway.
     
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  18. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Has Never Seen Our New Signings Play

    Why is your boy @Oxeki on the “Özil is a bad influence” narrative? Nothing to suggest this sort of stuff.
     
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  19. Oxeki

    Oxeki New Threads, Old Tweets

    I'll be looking for ways to shaft employee or get rid if he doesn't give a feck and his presence in my organization is breeding negativity in my work place
     
  20. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Has Never Seen Our New Signings Play

    There is nothing to suggest his presence is breeding negativity. You are the first person ever to claim this.

    Again, Özil is protected by law. You can’t do “anything”.

    Why not pay him? He’ll have to leave right now.
     
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