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Mesut Özil: These Öz Ain't Loyal

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by razörist, Aug 18, 2020.

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Why do you believe he's been left out?

  1. Just football reasons

  2. Criticism of China

  3. Paycut refusal

  4. A bit of everything

  5. Mods should ban kash2 from the thread

  6. Mods should ban Oxeki and Jury from the forum

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  1. Macho

    Macho Established Member Trusted

    I'm sad the laughing emojis are broken, cause this is funny.
     
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  2. Paddy from Sweden

    Paddy from Sweden Active Member

    Spot on!
     
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  3. Paddy from Sweden

    Paddy from Sweden Active Member

    No matter how much people write that they don't hate Özil they will get branded as haters cause they have a different view of him now as opposed to some years ago.
     
  4. Rickrollyou

    Rickrollyou Member

    lol Özil never contribute in build up? he was only there for the final pass?

    Not sure if you were trolling or what, Özil pass completion stats said otherwise.

    https://arseblog.news/2020/02/the-7amkickoff-index-mesut-ozils-stats-a-deep-dive/

    Despite of his decline, Özil is still one of the few in our squad who can bring the ball forward.








    I dont understand the hate train, but please stop spouting nonsense like he is the worst footballer playing for us unless you can prove it.
     
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  5. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    #Metoo
     
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  6. Sammy1887

    Sammy1887 New Year, Same Hate For Reed

    Who are they? Genuinely asking for a friend (@Jury )
     
  7. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    Greatest day in the Özil thread history I think. Never laughed so much :rofl:
     
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  8. Oxeki

    Oxeki New Threads, Old Tweets

    @Trilly what's your vested interest in criticism against Özil?
    Let those who bumlick him do so in peace. Let those who criticize him do so in peace. :lol:

    You're usually very calm and collected. Never seen you so rattled, not even in the Laca thread. :lol:
     
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  9. razörist

    razörist Soft With The Ladies, Hard With The Mes

    The ones without hate in their hearts will never forget, the good times and the bad.
     
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  10. razörist

    razörist Soft With The Ladies, Hard With The Mes

    I take my hat off to you! That’s how you are supposed to look at it objectively. Then you have people in here that would like to rewrite history as far back as his Werder Bremen days. Perhaps it’s still the pain from ruining England at the 2010 World Cup, idk.
     
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  11. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

  12. Football Manager

    Football Manager Copy & Paste Merchant

    Did you even watch the video you have posted?

    He would always make a forward pass, then the ball is not around him anymore. Everytime he releases the ball, the ball is no longer under his play. If the forward options are not available, he would just make a short simple pass to another player, to let that player to create the play.

    If you look at all other attacking midfielders, they make combination play in the midfield, they passes the ball around, making one-twos all the time. Always being near the ball. They want to control the ball as much as they can. Dribbling past players, then release the ball, then receive the ball back. Özil would make a forward pass and then say: alright, here you go, you make the play.
     
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  13. American_Gooner

    American_Gooner Not actually American. Unless Di Marzio says so. Moderator

    Jury whenever some slanders Özil:
     
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  14. Football Manager

    Football Manager Copy & Paste Merchant



    Please watch 16:06-16:12

    Why is he making that pass? That passing option is so wrong (I know you would praise him, because it’s a “forward pass“. I wouldn’t, that is a terrible passing option). Ramsey is next to him, Sagna is next to him.

    He should have made a short pass to Ramsey, run into the space in front of him, receive the ball back. And look for another combination play again (maybe with a few skill moves in between). That’s what I called involving in the build up. Not passing the ball forward and “leave” the play.

    The thinking behind Özil is to play forward pass quickly, which is alright in counter attack. But if we want to play possession football, he should have done what I have mentioned. Most other attacking midfielders would have passes the ball around, because they wanted the ball as much as possible.

    I’m sick of seeing Özil keep making these kind of “forward pass”, and hope one of them will end up well. You fans would praise him if one of these worked out, but in fact it is a complete waste of possession, which leads to drastic decrease of chances that our team could have possibly created.

    By the way, we were overloading on the right midfield area. Özil didn’t utilise the numerical advantage. Despite having numbers around him, he chose to make a “forward pass” to a marked player. If we lost the ball there (very likely as the overload is on the right midfield not the right forward area), the opponent can switch play to another side. And we are underloaded there.

    I don’t understand why you would keep seeing passes like this, but not able to realise how shxt he is in the build up. If it is another player making the same pass, you would have jumped right into the pitch and beaten him up.

    @Trilly
     
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2020
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  15. gamechannel

    gamechannel Well-Known Member

    This thread is still going? Jesus. The amount of time we have spent arguing about Özil, we could have solved the middle east Palestine-Israel conflict.
     
  16. UpTheGunnerz

    UpTheGunnerz Attention Seeker

    Wish the moderators would have the cheeky balls to remove this post to a "former Arsenal players section". Hehe.
     
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  17. Tosker

    Tosker Does Not Hate Foreigners

    after October 20th anyway
     
  18. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford Trusted

    I said only 2/3 people and I also said they know who they are.

    I said 2-3 because I wasn't sure about the third but he outed himself on the last page. Does't take a genius to figure out who the first two are (see poll). One of them has outright admitted that he doesn't like the guy as a human being, but it's lost somewhere in the hundreds of pages of discussion on Özil. :lol:
     
  19. CaseUteinberger

    CaseUteinberger Cazorla (not Carzola ffs)

    Think it is the same dynamic as with the Never Trumpers and the Never Never Trumpers.

    I think it is totally fine to change opinion on things and people when the circumstances change and you know more. I used to count Özil as one of our few world class players. Now I don’t anymore because he isn’t. Don’t find that strange or incorrect. The internets is indeed a strange place...
     
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  20. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    I thought you lot were well up to speed with the search function with all the counting posts and **** you do? :drool:
     
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