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Mesut Özil: Time to Move Ön?
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"Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth day, at dawn look to the east."
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Hexagon9
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How much, in £, flows into Arsenal’s coffers on a weekly or annual basis as a result of MO’s “branding” and “marketing”?
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Ah I probably should have actually watched the clips.
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Our win % in the league is higher when Özil doesn’t start than when he does.
Makes you think.
Makes you think.
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That's final nail to Özil's coffin in my mind. I suspected it all along. After he got a new contract, Özil dissapeared and didn't give 100% everytime in the training and in the games. Only his blinded fans couldn't see it. For his level and talent Özil was a major letdown overall in 2018. The guy just let himself go, like Wenger says, he became to complacent.
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Our win rate with Elneny starting is elite!
Not that I care much about Özil these days. He is from the same country as Mustafi.
Oh_Snap
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Does it really sound like Wenger to drop a player in it like that? Its probably either fake, poorly translated or point misunderstood.
He didn't specifically name Özil in the contract extension comments:
But this is succinctly put. Hats off to the man!
“To buy players of top, top quality you need £100m. So the decision you have to make is whether you re-sign the player, who costs us nothing, or do we have the money to buy a new player?”
But this is succinctly put. Hats off to the man!
“To buy players of top, top quality you need £100m. So the decision you have to make is whether you re-sign the player, who costs us nothing, or do we have the money to buy a new player?”
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These are the full comments according to Sky:
"I feel that the length of the contract has nothing to do normally with the selection of the team. But sometimes there are special cases," Wenger said.
"Most of the time now we think when we sign a player for five years we have a good player for five years. But that doesn't necessarily mean that they practice, they play their best. Because they might be in their comfort zone.
"He has a contract but the problem is that if you want to buy a player like him you have to spend £100m
"And to maintain the value of the player, beyond the Özil case, it is more about the way football is structured.
"To buy players of top, top quality you need £100m. So the decision you have to make is whether you re-sign the player, who costs us nothing, or do we have the money to buy a new player?"
Not much there. He's saying that players don't always play or practice their best at all times. Özil didn't even re-sign for five years, so that's more of a general comment imo. And Wenger's I think hinting that we can't afford to buy anyone of his quality at this point.
"I feel that the length of the contract has nothing to do normally with the selection of the team. But sometimes there are special cases," Wenger said.
"Most of the time now we think when we sign a player for five years we have a good player for five years. But that doesn't necessarily mean that they practice, they play their best. Because they might be in their comfort zone.
"He has a contract but the problem is that if you want to buy a player like him you have to spend £100m
"And to maintain the value of the player, beyond the Özil case, it is more about the way football is structured.
"To buy players of top, top quality you need £100m. So the decision you have to make is whether you re-sign the player, who costs us nothing, or do we have the money to buy a new player?"
Not much there. He's saying that players don't always play or practice their best at all times. Özil didn't even re-sign for five years, so that's more of a general comment imo. And Wenger's I think hinting that we can't afford to buy anyone of his quality at this point.
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Wenger isn't stupid mate, he's very clever with his words here. He knows exactly what he's saying without actually saying it, ever the diplomat.
Özil is a world class player and on his day he's worth every bit of that weekly wage. We didn't have the money to go out and buy someone of his quality, therefore it was a calculated gamble giving him that contract - but he's been coasting since the day he signed it and everybody knows it, including the board, Emery AND Wenger it would seem.
He's done, Le Prof has spoken.
Jae
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Sorry mate, but with the greatest of respect. What you're saying here is wrong.
The interview was conducted after Wenger received The Lifetime Achievement Award at The Laureus World Sports Awards in Monaco. That particular section of the interview (probably the whole thing but I haven't watched it all) was conducted entirely in English, and if you watch it he's quoted pretty much word for word by Sky.
The video of which you can find underneath (was quite simply to find, the top hit on Google after a 2 second search).
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/s...raises-questions-Mesut-Özil-effort-level.html
I like Özil, but as I said, Wenger is a clever man and a diplomat.
He's dropped him in it.
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He was asked specifically about the Özil situation and how it may resolve itself and said he didn’t want to speak specifically about that and then gave those quotes speaking in more general terms. In other words when a player signs a new contract you might not get the same player because they don’t have the same motivation. That could be Özil or anyone.
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Forgot what a pleasure it is listening to Arsène talk tbh.
Club needs a little space right now (and I think Arsène needs some time off) but 100% want him back at the club in a senior capacity in a few years.
Club needs a little space right now (and I think Arsène needs some time off) but 100% want him back at the club in a senior capacity in a few years.
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DoF is a must down the line, he’s our Cruyff figure.
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Nah I wouldn’t want him involved in the management side of things. You can’t expect someone who used to run the whole show to be happy suddenly being just a small cog in a broader operation. Even if he could contain himself, think his mere presence would end up undermining the manager; imagine the speculation everytime we hit some poor form. Not sure that negotiating / closing transfers is his greatest strength either!
Ferguson at United should be the model. A boardroom presence and club ambassador with some influence over club’s direction / major decisisons (e.g. new manager) but keeping well-away from interfering in the day-to-day administration. A clean break is important on so many levels.
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Scenes of Arsène sitting at the head of the table, with his back to everyone. Board members sitting in their chairs, nobody dares to look up. Sanllehi walks in, confused, asking who called this meeting? A flash of thunder can be seen through the dark windows. Arsène turns around, looks him straight in the eyes and says: “give me my Arsenal back.”
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