Mikel Arteta: Mid-table Mikel

Do you think that Arsenal should continue with Arteta for the next season 2021-22?

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Riou

Gatekeeper Of Mediocrity
Exactly, Freddie got shafted out just because Arteta had Pep as his hype man and some hair follicles. It was Freddie who first put Saka at left back and he managed to use a Martinelli, Auba and Pepe in a front 3 without much issue; he also brought back Xhaka (not sure if that was a great thing but Arteta definitely benefited from that). Was Freddie perfect? No. But he had common sense and for some reason that seemed to evade Arteta and Emery with their line ups.

I was so onboard for Freddie, an Invincible leading us...stuff of dreams!

Then it went wrong immediately pretty much, with things that were both his and not his fault...his only win was on my birthday though, so happy with that at least :lol:
 

Riou

Gatekeeper Of Mediocrity
Freddie's goodbye message to Mikel...

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...per my source.
 

vantoure

Well-Known Member
Can't imagine Freddie was happy with the club or Arteta.

Ljungberg who is much closer to a club legend than Arteta, played for the club during it's peak years...and bar a brief stint at Wolfsburg, had been caching at the club from about 2016...while Mikel not only left us immediately after he retired, after we basically paid him for nothing due to his injuries in his last 18 months at Arsenal, but left us to join a rival English team.

Ljungberg was asked to hold the ship together, with no staff bar Per, while Arsenal wooed a rookie manager, then Arteta instantly took him away from the bench and put him in the stands for some reason...of course Freddie was pissed :lol:
I know this is on a lighter note ;) but it's difficult to identify with the club recently, almost every bit of value I could relate with the club is gone. Quite mechanical these days.

Anyways, back to tricky micky and his middling ways
 

vantoure

Well-Known Member
I've a sneaky feeling Arteta will survive this dark night, with qualification tonight and a bit of improvement next season, that will have his cult members say "YoU sEe, wE TolD YoUs, YoU SHouLd HavE TruSTed tHe PRoCess"

Where does Arteta go after this? I'm going to suggest Almeria.
 

Blood on the Tracks

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I've no issues with Freddie getting binned by Arteta. Don't get me wrong I loved him as a player and maybe he'll work out as a top coach / manager in time. Arteta deserved the right as manager to have the footballing people around him that he wanted though.

I think at times clubs can go a bit overboard in terms of having ex players in place. It's a fad. Barca and Bayern etc do it so everyone else wants to follow suit. You want a couple ideally to help keep the clubs identity but they've got to be justifiable on ability rather than the fact they were a good player or knew the club inside out.

Someone like Steve Bould was a prime example as someone who got promoted about his station I feel. Not a great assistant. But then on the other hand I guess you have guys like Pat Rice who certainly were.

I don't feel Edu would have got his job just based off his CV either.
 
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GDeep™

Cute and Clever
Talk of assistants is interesting, especially when you consider Utd players saying Ferguson was a poor coach and Evra even said they declined in terms of tactical approach after Carlos Queiroz left.

Having and being a good coach, seems an art in itself.
 

Tourbillion

Angry & Miserable
I was so onboard for Freddie, an Invincible leading us...stuff of dreams!

Then it went wrong immediately pretty much, with things that were both his and not his fault...his only win was on my birthday though, so happy with that at least :lol:
Loved the football he was trying to implement to be honest. The 2-2 at Norwich we played superbly in the first half.

Then the West Ham win was lovely.
 

RunTheTrap

Nobody laughs on my "jokes" 😫
Reading here, some of you are hung up on Arteta getting sacked ASAP, which isn’t going to happen no matter what as he’ll be given another crack next season. Which is a reasonable play for me.
I agree, no matter what happens tonight, Arteta will stay. However, we as a club have the tendency to stick it out with underachieving managers and more times than often it hurts us. Wenger flopped and missed out on top 4 and we go on to have our worst season under him. Emery flopped at Baku and he should've been sacked then but we don't and we hover around 8th in December. My question is, why do we let these managers stay to correct the mistakes they have caused?
 

GDeep™

Cute and Clever
I agree, no matter what happens tonight, Arteta will stay. However, we as a club have the tendency to stick it out with underachieving managers and more times than often it hurts us. Wenger flopped and missed out on top 4 and we go on to have our worst season under him. Emery flopped at Baku and he should've been sacked then but we don't and we hover around 8th in December. My question is, why do we let these managers stay to correct the mistakes they have caused?
Wenger wanted to leave after we won the FA Cup, club asked him to stay to protect themselves abit longer.

Couldn’t sack Emery after just one season where he nearly got top 4 and made the EL final.

Even Arteta, you don’t hire a newbie manager just to to sack them after one year unless they’ve been terrible. FA Cup got him time too.

Also, hiring and firing managers every season just shows you don’t know what you’re doing. Think they’ll want to ride this out with Arteta just so they can protect themselves a little too - Vinai, Edu, Josh etc.
 

ArtetaOut

Well-Known Member
Prague have disappointed me thoroughly. But this is merely delaying the inevitable as we aint gonna win the EL under Cone Boy and it would be extra sweet if it is Emery doing us a favor in the semis.
 

dka91

Well-Known Member
Yeah I agree that he made up for the first leg. Kudos to Arteta for the way we attacked those sheep sh@ggers from the onset.

There were a few periods we looked a little less energetic but I think down periods during a game are normal.

But there are still three games and a lot to play for, so let's see.
 

AberGooner

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Played some excellent stuff tonight. We've seen that in halfs here and there this season but it's all about doing it over a 90 which we did tonight. Hopefully Arteta sees Pepe/ESR/Saka as the blueprint for both now and the future. They all link together so well and an absolute nightmare for a defence to deal with. Partey a Rolls Royce behind them, so comfortable.
 

Iceman10

Established Member
It's likely we are going to keep Laca, will end up unstoppable I think. Could be something we look back on 3-6 months later on again but I'm not going to fight it if it happens. It is part of management and tough decisions though, and I would still prefer executing the plan of refreshing multiple positions on the pitch, incl.CF.
 

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