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Country: Northern Ireland
Player:Gabriel
“I’m quarter black”, “but I have black friends”, “my nephew is black” so I can’t be racist
John Terry right now...
“I’m quarter black”, “but I have black friends”, “my nephew is black” so I can’t be racist
John Terry right now...
It wouldn’t surprise me if John Terry said “I can’t be racist, I have a lot of black friends” then Ashley Cole steps forward.
Having black friends and having 1 or more black parents is a rather different kettle of fish in terms of perspective don't you think - and I'm not just referring to myself. One may have witnessed racism, the other has almost certainly been a victim of it for large parts of their life.Not directing this at you but I cringe whenever I hear comments like “I’m quarter black”, “but I have black friends”, “my nephew is black” so I can’t be racist absolute cop out comments when the pressure has been applied.
Anyways, hopefully Pepe finds a decent club that he can play regularly. I honestly can’t see a deal happening until the final days of the window when teams start to panic.
Having black friends and having 1 or more black parents is a rather different kettle of fish in terms of perspective don't you think - and I'm not just referring to myself. One may have witnessed racism, the other has almost certainly been a victim of it for large parts of their life.
But its part of the fact that we are a delicate point in our social evolution regarding whole range of issues - be it race, sexuality, gender, disability status etc - where we are much more conscious of discrimination and a significant section of society is thankfully much more willing to speak out and challenge discrimination (despite our politicians swinging wildly towards fascism throughout the western world), but in our desire to do the right thing, it is very easy to see something and fill in the blanks according to negative assumptions. Which of course is exacerbated when right-wing a-holes constantly ascribe people being rightly called out as cancel culture. While sometimes, as alluded to, there can be 'cancel culture' - and too often people being punished for sins of attitude of their teenage years - for the most part, its bang on.
The balancing act is a difficult one because we are still learning where the balance lies after centuries of just accepting bigotry as part of everyday life. All we can really do during this learning period is try to practice a degree of kindness and forgiveness, while sticking true to our principles.
As with myself above, given how what I wrote could be read, I have absolutely no issue with being challenged, as it was careless of me not to see the possible connotation myself. And @Makingtrax responded with the right attitude to my apology and clarification.
So much of this is about education - and its amazing what can be achieved in terms of influencing people to change mindset or be more thoughtful when one is patient and forgiving, even over the nuance-shy world of social media. Its bloody hard work at times, and often doesn't yield results, but I've seen first hand (and contributed to!) what can be achieved if you put the time in.
Back on topic, its hard to imagine anyone with Pepe's wage packet and recent form is going to be first choice target for many teams, so it will be largely a case of seeing how other business shakes out. Same with Bellerin, Torreira and probably Pablo Mari, despite his lower wage.
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I never said you were directing it at me. I did say "...and I'm not just referring to myself", before talking in much more general terms. Perhaps I'm not the one who needs to work on their readingYou know you would have saved yourself 10 minutes and the hassle of typing up an essay if you just read the below:
Sometimes I question whether people on A-M actually read a post before they quote it
I never said you were directing it at me. I did say "...and I'm not just referring to myself", before talking in much more general terms. Perhaps I'm no the one who needs to work on their reading
I'm pulling your leg - but I wasn't attempting to explain or justify, I was talking more broadly because I thought it was a topic worthy of it - its all good, either wayMy point was there was no need for an explanation or justification as I saw what you posted on the other page.
Claiming half black on an anonymous forum is so dumb course it's a cop out and it changes nothing. Loads of self hating weirdos out there.Not directing this at you but I cringe whenever I hear comments like “I’m quarter black”, “but I have black friends”, “my nephew is black” so I can’t be racist absolute cop out comments when the pressure has been applied.
Anyways, hopefully Pepe finds a decent club that he can play regularly. I honestly can’t see a deal happening until the final days of the window when teams start to panic.
Claiming half black on an anonymous forum is so dumb course it's a cop out and it changes nothing. Loads of self hating weirdos out there.
Just own the jungle baller comments it's not like people disagreed or felt strongly about it. People are more concerned about how many millions this dud would fetch.
There were 2 black players on the bench that got racist abuse after Saka scored last season against Leeds but there were only tears and flowers for Saka, this fanbase is useless.I think it would have been seen differently had that comment been said about Saka for example which I find a little bit strange. The lad wouldn’t have had time for an explanation, so he got off lucky there
Surely we can waive a loan fee and let the other team pick up all his wages or just reduce our asking price? It's not down to the player to take a pay cut and we've got a bad history of protecting the value of our players and selling well. Hopefully Pepe is a bit pragmatic too but who knows.The difference is Minamino is probably on like 40k pw and Pepe is on 140k pw. Think this is the main reason we can't get fees for our unwanted players, and why Liverpool can.
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Surely we can waive a loan fee and let the other team pick up all his wages or just reduce our asking price? It's not down to the player to take a pay cut and we've got a bad history of protecting the value of our players and selling well. Hopefully Pepe is a bit pragmatic too but who knows.
I think he’ll see out his contract here and move back to France or Italy even.At this point whoever is getting Pepe is getting quite a bargain, a guy that never stopped delivering even if thee manager was working completely against him.
Still remember a big fuss made by Arteta over how he stopped a ball, even if he had to end up doing some strange pirouettes for us to get past the mighty Norwich. Of course the fanbase lapped it up.
It's insane that if Pepe wanted to remain at Arsenal FC under this manager what he had to do was pass the ball back more times and run more towards our own box. It's still hard to believe.