I noticed there was a PES 16 and 17 thread but no 19. So there it is. It's my first PES since 2007 probably. I moved to Fifa in 2010 because it clearly was a better game. It was quite amazing at the time. Pes was an 'arcade' game and fifa was the closest thing to a simulation. Fifa has been on the downfall since 2014/15. Got more and more 'arcady', the gameplay has become a nightmare. No respect for build up play. Just counter over counter, way too fast (especially on FUT) . No wonder kids get ADD. Play Fifa with a bowl of Fruit Loops, you'll be Tweeking in no time. I went back to PES thinking '' might as well''. And I am quite baffled actually. Haven't enjoyed a football game so much since fifa 12 I'd say. Of course the content isn't that great but what is the point of having content if the actual game is all screwed up. Any PES players and Fifa dissidents ? I am curious of your experience with the game.