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PL: Arsenal v Leicester City | Sunday October 25 | KO: 19:15 GMT | Sky Sports Box Office (£14.95)

Discussion in 'Match Day Archive' started by American_Gooner, Oct 22, 2020.

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Match Prediction

Poll closed Oct 25, 2020.
  1. Arsenal Win

    76.2%
  2. Draw

    19.0%
  3. Leicester Win

    4.8%
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  1. Why

    Why Active Member

    Its a really weird season...

    I think there a couple of things that are factoring into why we are ****e currently...

    Mainly is that we are completely transparent in our tactics, pass out from the back and then hit it to the left side and try to find Auba. If that doesn't work long ball over the top from defence to try and find auba.

    That's it, we have no other plan B.

    If there is a risk we lose the ball in that buildup, we pass it back and start again. But it means if Auba is man marked there is nothing we can do except pass it around the back.

    We are so incredibly linear it makes us easy to beat.

    I am starting to wonder if the meta has changed again, bit like when Tika Taka was en-vogue and teams were decimating with it, then coaches like Mourinho learned to park the bus to beat it.

    You then had Klopps Gegenpress, and quick Counters, and Peps building from the back. They are now being found out and teams know how to counter it.

    We are trying high press, and building from the back and we are not really good at either, nor do we have the players to pull it off. So we are just getting slapped.

    Leicester showed yesterday they can just let us have the ball, pass it around pointlessly and we wont create anything as they can force Auba out of the game. We should be then running at them and trying to beat the man. But we don't. Then all it takes is for one of our players to be out of position and its all over.

    I just don't get how we have gone from having the most lethal attack and no ****ing defence. So now having zero attack, and a defence that is marginally better.

    Last 10mins last night was painful, as Mustafi was just kicking crap long balls and gifting it back to the team. Which Nketiah was drawing fouls by trying to run around a bunch and win the ball back, similar to when he got his Red. Love the enthusiasm, but that aint helping.
     
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  2. Gooner Zig

    Gooner Zig AM's Resident Accountant Trusted

    That's true however the problem is that we don't create enough scoring opportunities to consistently put pressure on our higher quality opponents. The offside goal that wasn't plus Laca's miss aren't enough in a home game against a higher calibre opposition.
     
  3. Kav

    Kav Well-Known Member

    Is it not his first job as head coach/ manager?

    who do you know becomes an expert on their first go? It takes years to become an expert at anything. So while he may have the training from his coaching badges. He certainly is no expert.

    You should look in the mirror and give yourself that card. Lol.
     
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  4. Kav

    Kav Well-Known Member

    Yet it was Xhaka who got undone because of His lack of mobility. Worked great didn’t it.
     
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  5. Oxeki

    Oxeki New Threads, Old Tweets

    Willian will help us create from the Midfield.

    I don't get why Arteta is insisting on using him in the wing. He's not the Willian of 3-4 years ago.

    He was one of the best creators in the league last season.
     
  6. American_Gooner

    American_Gooner Not actually American. Unless Di Marzio says so. Moderator



    think they might buckle to the fan pressure
     
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  7. Gegen Pressing

    Gegen Pressing Well-Known Member

    Also I am afraid Arteta taking his inspiration only from Spanish football and coaches. I.e I don't think he is much interested in English football actually.
     
  8. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    No he wasn’t :rofl:
     
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  9. BigPoppaPump

    BigPoppaPump Ex-Arsenal Fan

    Man imagine Emery if he had Gabriel and Partey? He was playing out the back with Sokratis and was forced to play bums like Torreira.
     
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  10. Gegen Pressing

    Gegen Pressing Well-Known Member

    Wenger "parked bus with a little bit of handbrake .... and seatbelts on"
     
  11. Tir Na Nog

    Tir Na Nog In Big Trouble If He Speaks

    With no gas in the tank.
     
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  12. Oxeki

    Oxeki New Threads, Old Tweets

    He had the second minutes per chance creation last season.
     
  13. DJ_Markstar

    DJ_Markstar Well-Known Member

    Feel like there's a lot of undue negativity, We lost due to a harsh disallowed goal and poor finishing. Saka had a volley from a few yards and fluffed his lines, Laca missed a header from a few yards.

    Even with the disallowed goal we should have won 2-1 imo.

    Regardless, Leicester are a good side and losing to them isn't a disaster. We'll win 9/10 times based on yesterday's performance.
     
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  14. kash2

    kash2 Obsessed With Jury

    Vardy wasnt playing 90 minutes and in his cameo he had two clear cut chances, one of which leno's nose saved fortunately
     
  15. DJ_Markstar

    DJ_Markstar Well-Known Member

    What does that have to do with what I said.
     
  16. kash2

    kash2 Obsessed With Jury

    " We lost due to a harsh disallowed goal and poor finishing."

    nopes..we lost by not being able to press home our advantage for 60 minutes, setting up a naive over-tinkered system and then getting shat on by Vardy who ripped us open twice. We were lucky he wasnt playing the whole game.
     
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  17. #254

    #254 Well-Known Member

    We have played like **** in over 90 % of Arteta's games here. Everyone thought we'd improve our creativity and fluidity with Partey but instead we were busy passing back, sideways and playing useless long balls that never came off once Luis got injured. If we can't beat an injury battered Leicester, we have **** tactics.
    Tbh, I'm beginning to get Emery vibes here and for me that's disastrous. United are going to batter us. Aren't they?
     
  18. American_Gooner

    American_Gooner Not actually American. Unless Di Marzio says so. Moderator



    they get some stick but this is brilliant from the AST
     
  19. Lakersgooner24

    Lakersgooner24 Well-Known Member

    Leicester are a good team, but our lack of creativity and inability to create chances is becoming a huge concern. We haven't had a single match this season where our attack looked fluid and/or threatening except our opener against Fulham, but they are a championship level side. There are no signs we'll improve either in that respect which is worrying.

    Yesterday was reminiscent of our defeats at home against Fergie's United during the Emirates era. We were allowed to control possession, failed to convert our chances (ultimately running out of ideas), and we're destroyed on the counter. Leicester didn't have the quality of that United side so were unable to capitalize until Vardy came on.

    I like the attitude and character Arteta has brought to the team, and I feel he does exude a certain charisma that the top managers have, however, as much as our defense has improved, our lack of attacking output can't go unnoticed. Hopefully we address the missing creativity in the upcoming transfer windows, and see if Arteta can create a more exciting brand of football, but it is worrying times until then.
     
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  20. DJ_Markstar

    DJ_Markstar Well-Known Member

    So you're agreeing with me but wanting to carry on disagreeing with me.

    Please define "naive" and then tell me how this applies to Arteta's system.
     
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