Wilshere misses out on u21 call up

[sabret00the]

Seems our boy Jack was overlooked more or less completely in terms of England call ups, with no promotion to the u21 or Full squads. I've been dying to see him in the u21 squad, hoping that he could have more time to mesh with Gibbs, which would favour us, but alas no.

Are you happy that he's been overlooked? After all it allows the hype to go away. Or are you now a little disgruntled?

 

[otfgoon]

I would habe liked to see him in the U-21, the hype would not have been that bad and he would have gotten some games and experience.

Not exactly gutted though.

 

[A_Gooner_Matata]

As a rule, I'm happy whenever an Arsenal player misses out on international duty. Perhaps I'm overly cynical about injuries...

 

[True Gooner]

Don't care. He's got plenty of time on his hands.

 

[Unforgiven]

Would have been good for him but he is only just 17, can't expect him to be definitely in there.

 

[A_Gooner_Matata]

I wonder what odds you'd get on Wilshere never playing for the under-21s? There must be a chance he could go straight to the national side and stay there.

 

[Clrnc]

Happy that he got overlooked.

He is so good we need to make sure he won't become Deisler

 

[progman07]

It's good, if he gets it too easy he might get complacent.

 

[patrick42uk]

Am i the only one who immediately thought he'd be included in the senior squad? End of the day, how many U-21 games did Rooney play. The boy is a bigger talent.

 

[Klaus Daimler]

Personally I don't care either way, but I feel a bit sad for Jack. He's worked hard for this and he's performed brilliantly in preseason, only for a imbecile like Pearce to screw him over. He deserves better; he's heads and shoulders above most of those guys already anyway.

patrick: I think Capello wants to take it slow with Jack. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a callup sometime during this season and perhaps even gets included in the squad for South Africa, but right now it's a bit too early.

 

[Hunta]

Good question about Rooney patrick42uk, does anybody know how many England u21 games Rooney played before making the step up...or was he included in the first team straight away??

Onto Jack, i am not really bothered to be honest with you...he is only 17 so he has plenty of time to get a call-up. I wouldn't be surprised if Pearce never included him in the squad because of the Theo situation last season were Arsène wasn't too pleased with him playing in both setups...maybe Stuart didn't want to further annoy Arsène by including Jack in his squad? (Just a thought, i dont know why Arsène wouldn't want Jack called up...maybe because of the pressure or something??)

 

[outlaw_member]

Personally I don't care either way, but I feel a bit sad for Jack. He's worked hard for this and he's performed brilliantly in preseason, only for a imbecile like Pearce to screw him over. He deserves better; he's heads and shoulders above most of those guys already anyway.

patrick: I think Capello wants to take it slow with Jack. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a callup sometime during this season and perhaps even gets included in the squad for South Africa, but right now it's a bit too early.

If Pearce can't see how Wilshere could help his team, than he frankly doesn't deserve him. Although, I think the current England setup is no longer based on picking the most talented players, but instead choosing the best performing players. In that sense, it is understandable why he won't get picked until he starts playing consistently for Arsenal.

 

[Meatwad]

this is great news. the less interaction he has with **** coaches the better.

 

[otfgoon]

Good question about Rooney patrick42uk, does anybody know how many England u21 games Rooney played before making the step up...or was he included in the first team straight away??

Rooney skipped the U-21 level I think.

 

[Klaus Daimler]

If Pearce can't see how Wilshere could help his team, than he frankly doesn't deserve him.

Fully agree. At the same time I realise that a callup means something to Jack and for that I'm angry.

Although, I think the current England setup is no longer based on picking the most talented players, but instead choosing the best performing players. In that sense, it is understandable why he won't get picked until he starts playing consistently for Arsenal.

I don't know. Nobody else in the U21 squad has performed like Wilshere has during the preseason. Perhaps it's based on picking players that are regulars? But that still doesn't explain why the likes of Gibbs and Junior Stanislas are included. I think that Pearce is just playing it safe. He's old school and believes you have to earn a place in his team, hence benching Walcott during the U21 Euros after tearing up heaven and earth just to get him into the squad. Perhaps he's even too proud to be a vehicle for Wilshere for three or four months until Capello calls on him. Whatever the reason for not picking him is, it's not based on either performances or current football ability.

 

[M+D]

The fact that Chris Smalling has been called up suggests that Pearce doesn't really care whether they are a regular for their clubs or not surely? And I assume he has been picked purely on pre-season performances as his first Fulham start came in a friendly this summer.

Interesting how SkySports are even running the story from the angle that Wilshere should be in it: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12010_5475128,00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 28,00.html</a>

 

[outlaw_member]

I think the lack of league appearances is probably his reason. Stanislas and Gibbs have had relatively more game time in the league, whereas Wilshere has only played around 15 minutes. Not that it matters much, because Wilshere is obviously a far better player than both of them, but since Capello has come in, performances and consistent selection has been rewarded over reputation and talent. The scale is obviously smaller in the u21 scene, but I think if Wilshere appears in a few league games this season, than I have no doubt that he will be picked.

Edit: Than again Smalling proves that theory wrong.

 

[MAK 14]

No point really worrying about it, the lad is still incredibly young, time is definitely on his side. However, i do agree that had he had the time he deserved last season, he would probably of had a call up. Just think about all the times we could of had Wilshere playing on the wings instead of Diaby, and had that happened i'm sure he would of been called up.

 

[patrick42uk]

Looking at that squad, I can see why JAck was omitted. What a waste of time it would be. THose guys would make him look bad

 

[patrick42uk]

Actually, I think the whole England experience will be unproductive for Jack. If I were him, I'd take a good look at the family tree to see if theres any latin ancestry.