Arsène Wenger: Same Old Class

[WhatAFC]

This is correct. Suarez had a clause but Liverpool knew that they could still refuse to sell and it would take Suarez suing Liverpool for breach of contract or something that would take longer to resolve than the transfer window would be open so Liverpool knew they could just make Suarez back down and he couldn't force transfer.

No it is not correct. He had a clause in his contract that meant at £40m he and his representatives had to be informed and it was a starting point for discussions. The actual clause doesn't say anything about Liverpool having to sell at £40m. That's why it wasn't breach of contract.

Jesus Christ.

 

[RoadrunnerReloaded]

No it is not correct. He had a clause in his contract that meant at £40m he and his representatives had to be informed and it was a starting point for discussions. The actual clause doesn't say anything about Liverpool having to sell at £40m. That's why it wasn't breach of contract.

Jesus Christ.

You have a link to the exact wording the contract?

Both Wenger and John Henry say basically the same thing. Not sure why you think they are both wrong.

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

No it is not correct. He had a clause in his contract that meant at £40m he and his representatives had to be informed and it was a starting point for discussions. The actual clause doesn't say anything about Liverpool having to sell at £40m. That's why it wasn't breach of contract.

Jesus Christ.

I believe the owner of Liverpool more than anything you can provide.

Let it be end of the discussion, I'm never gonna agree with you on this.

 

[WhatAFC]

You have a link to the exact wording the contract?

Both Wenger and John Henry say basically the same thing. Not sure why you think they are both wrong.

The PFA were brought in by Suarez to look at it and they made a statement which is very easy to find which explains it all.

The wording apparently wasn't that of a release clause, it was open to interpretation. Which is why Liverpool didn't sell, they would have a strong case that it wasn't a release clause.

Why do you think Leicester sold Kante and vardy was apparently on his way to us? Because they had proper release clauses, not ones which were ambiguous.

 

[WhatAFC]

I believe the owner of Liverpool more than anything you can provide.

Let it be end of the discussion, I'm never gonna agree with you on this.

Can't help some people I guess.

 

[WhatAFC]

This has a lot of the quotes from the PFA:

http://news.arseblog.com/2013/08/pfa-confirm-no-40m-suarez-clause/


This is an interesting read on the subject and clauses in general:

http://anfieldindex.com/8967/clause-what-clause-luis-suarez-story.html

 

[Preacher]

Cross got another email from the club :
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/Arsène-wenger-holds-further-talks-10093879

 

[RoadrunnerReloaded]

This has a lot of the quotes from the PFA:

http://news.arseblog.com/2013/08/pfa-confirm-no-40m-suarez-clause/


This is an interesting read on the subject and clauses in general:

http://anfieldindex.com/8967/clause-what-clause-luis-suarez-story.html

Unless its the actual contract itself, which it isn't, its no more reliable than Wenger and John Henry. PFA, is not unbiased as they have a vested interest in making sure its not known that clubs can screw with player contracts. So unless we can all see the contract itself, we can agree to disagree.

 

[rich 1990]

Banning anyone taking part in this argument. No one cares.

 

[Makingtrax]

No he never says that he can be dumb in many ways but not that dumb! However why does he even mention this? First of all does he not remember before he came to Arsenal who had heard of Arsène Wenger?

He says our club is the greatest club and it has been for him. The projects building a new stadium becoming better commercially were all in place BEFORE he arrived and D Dein was the driving force. If it had not been Wenger, Dein would have found another to drive this project forward. ALSO virtually ALL clubs in premier league are at a higher level and profile now than from the 1990's.

Wenger can rightfully claim he has played a massive part in growing us..but he has been rewarded handsomely and our FANS and club have been loyal to him. Remember our fans paid the highest season tickets and extortionate hot dog prices in the world during this time to help finance this as well!

Its time this guy woke up and realised we owe him NOTHING. He has us to thank for giving him a wonderful platform to build his reputation and take his ideas to give HIM a profile as high as it is globally. The reality is outside the PL he has been a MASSIVE MASSIVE failure even with the most talented squads in our history. He has been found out by better foreign coaches easily time and time again!

This is in a results business and being nearly 20 points off winning the league while getting spanked not just by giants but also under performing lower table clubs is NOT what he set out to be 20 years ago when he joined our club. Had he done that in first 3 years he would be gone!.

One more thing sure Liverpool never won the PL but Wenger never won the CL or uefa cup...even with pi*s poor squads Liverpool did it. So he should stop making himself look dumb continually by saying that

Once I see all that angry bold text and caps, I don't bother reading tbf.

 

[Makingtrax]

Banning anyone taking part in this argument. No one cares.

Notice 99% of your posts are about banning people and saying what can and can't be discussed.

You a secret mod Richard? You know, like those unmarked cop cars that suddenly appear from nowhere with their flashing lights and book you for speeding. The bast*rds.

 

[Makingtrax]

Cross got another email from the club :
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/Arsène-wenger-holds-further-talks-10093879

If that's true it looks like there'll be a transition period while the board find a successor.

 

[rich 1990]

Notice 99% of your posts are about banning people and saying what can and can't be discussed.

You a secret mod Richard? You know, like those unmarked cop cars that suddenly appear from nowhere with their flashing lights and book you for speeding. The bast*rds.

No, I'm just a fascist. Like those pro-EU nutters trying to overturn democracy cos they're whingy, little hos. I have no concern for thoughts or feelings of others.

Suarez is done, finished, kaput, over. He's at Barcelona, I doubt he's sobbing himself to sleep at the opportunity missed of playing with Giroud instead of Messi. We have enough problems now to be digging up old ones.

 

[GDeep™]

Respect lfc for trying to keep their bestplayer and then selling him to a non-english club for a high price
Take notes 4th place lover

But Arsenal always finish above Liverpool. Respect.

 

[Jury]

No he never says that he can be dumb in many ways but not that dumb! However why does he even mention this? First of all does he not remember before he came to Arsenal, who had heard of Arsène Wenger?

He says our club is the greatest club and it has been for him. The projects building a new stadium becoming better commercially were all in place before he arrived and D Dein was the driving force. If it had not been Wenger, Dein would have found another to drive this project forward. Also virtually all clubs in premier league are at a higher level and profile now than from the 1990's.

Wenger can rightfully claim he has played a massive part in growing us..but he has been rewarded handsomely and our fans and club have been loyal to him. Remember our fans paid the highest season tickets and extortionate hot dog prices in the world during this time to help finance this as well!

Its time this guy woke up and realised we owe him nothing. He has us to thank for giving him a wonderful platform to build his reputation and take his ideas to give him a profile as high as it is globally. The reality is outside the PL he has been a massive massive failure even with the most talented squads in our history. He has been found out by better foreign coaches easily time and time again!

This is in a results business and being nearly 20 points off winning the league while getting spanked not just by giants but also under performing lower table clubs is not what he set out to be 20 years ago when he joined our club. Had he done that in first 3 years he would be gone!.

One more thing sure Liverpool never won the PL but Wenger never won the CL or uefa cup...even with pi*s poor squads Liverpool did it. So he should stop making himself look dumb continually by saying that

@Makingtrax Here you go, yer wuss--minus the scary caps and bolded bits.

 

[Jury]

Suarez would be long gone by now anyway. We'd have got £80m off Barca though!

 

[WhatAFC]

Unless its the actual contract itself, which it isn't, its no more reliable than Wenger and John Henry. PFA, is not unbiased as they have a vested interest in making sure its not known that clubs can screw with player contracts. So unless we can all see the contract itself, we can agree to disagree.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...ls-version-luis-suarez-liverpool-arsenal/amp/

Wenger saying we were wrongly advised he had a clause.

Now the PFA and Wenger's word against Henry. Guess Liverpool still just decided not to sell and breached suarez's contract.

 

[WhatAFC]

Suarez would be long gone by now anyway. We'd have got £80m off Barca though!

The way we negotiate selling players we'd probably have got less than we paid!

 

[rich 1990]

Suarez would be long gone by now anyway. We'd have got £80m off Barca though!

We would have got £40 million and 75p

 

[GDeep™]

Suarez would be long gone by now anyway. We'd have got £80m off Barca though!

That 80M would've made no difference really, not like the club would've spent it on a replacement.

Suarez would've got us a title though maybe.