Mesut Özil: Time to Move Ön?

[al-Ustaadh]

Looks like an apples to apples comparison to me.

On the off chance, someone at the board room level starts sniffing glue and offers Jenkinson a new contract him and his agent aren't going to demand 100k because Özil is getting 350k.

Players and their agents aren't stupid. No one is going to push out the boat during negotiations far above their value, unless they're looking to purposely sabotage the negotiations.

Except when the club does give in... Özil's contract negotiations are a perfect example of that.

Ramsey and Sanchez situations fit your argument scenario.

 

[carlito'sway]

Overmars said in an interview today that he thinks its a good idea for Arsenal to try to get Alexis back here.

So that’s a red flag.

No way..... Are you serious? What has he been smoking?
Alexis is done playing football at a high level.

 

[Furious]

Take a wage cut, lmao. Baffling what some idiots can come up with.

We're in the middle of the season, and we have one goal; CL next season.

Do we have a better chance of getting there with Mesut playing a role? Absolutely no ****ing doubt. End of discussion.

 

[A_G]

Didn’t Ornstein say on arsecast that Emery has gained more influence now after Gazidis is gone? Iirc he mentioned something about Emery having more influence over transfer targets and the squad in general.

I thought it was Sven’s departure that gave him more influence over transfer targets?

I think a head coach like Emery only has so much power, just look at the Ramsey contract negotiations; it wa s those above him that pulled the plug on the deal. Whereas when Wenger was at the club, he had much greater sway over what happened (and rightfully so tbf).

 

[carlito'sway]

Sorry for my lack of clarity, I was thinking out loud. Yes, I’m starting to think more and more that it isn’t Emery’s decision. He plays Mkhi, wanted Denis Suarez, they are not defensive worldbeaters and when it comes to offensive running Mesut beats them easily.

It is an easy excuse. Who else could ask Emery to sit Mesut? He said it more than once that it is a tactical decision, hence the decision is all on him.

 

[krengon]

Don't know how reliable that guy is, but I'd prefer this to be true tbh. Even if I don't like it, it's way better than the alternative.

 

[Tir Na Nog]

It is possible that both Emery and the board might be on the same page here. Emery doesn't see him in his long term plans and the board want him out because of his high wages.

 

[say yes]

Started writing a serious reply but this thread doesn’t deserve any quality thought.

Just gonna sit back and enjoy grown men losing their minds over a fortnite obsessed, immunosupressed, massively-overrated German.

 

[A_G]

Don't know how reliable that guy is, but I'd prefer this to be true tbh. Even if I don't like it, it's way better than the alternative.

From that article:

Emery, perhaps understandably, has reservations about Özil's commitment to the cause. In December, for example, knowing he'd not be named in the starting XI against Tottenham, Özil ruled himself unfit with a back spasm.

Having examined the German, Arsenal medical staff detected a minor back issue that ran down into the top of his hamstrings.

However there was a belief amongst coaching staff that Özil could have played without much discomfort, but cited the back issue knowing it gave him a genuine reason not to suffer the the ignominy of being a substitute during a north London derby.

it would confirm what people have suspected about him...

 

[al-Ustaadh]

Take a wage cut, lmao. Baffling what some idiots can come up with.

We're in the middle of the season, and we have one goal; CL next season.

Do we have a better chance of getting there with Mesut playing a role? Absolutely no ****ing doubt. End of discussion.

lol

Don't think anybody is denying that, just that he's not actually worth the money he's on. And you even know that.

 

[blaze_of_glory]

From that article:

it would confirm what people have suspected about him...

So Özil says he has a back issue, docs confirm it, and the coaches are pissed.

**** the coaches then tbh. They believed he could have played without much discomfort based on what exactly? Tarot cards? Jesus christ.

 

[blaze_of_glory]

The club are tapping the Daily Mail to write hit pieces about players now. This is a new low.

 

[Aevi]

Started writing a serious reply but this thread doesn’t deserve any quality thought.

Just gonna sit back and enjoy grown men losing their minds over a fortnite obsessed, immunosupressed, massively-overrated German.

You're a good poster but you're really coming off like a pompous arsehole these days.

 

[MutableEarth]

Quite enjoying Mesut's subtle shots on social media. At least he's not directing them at his teammates like Alexis did on occasion during his last season here.

Me too. Things are getting interesting IMO especially looking at the comments from present players. If Özil starts getting the squad on his side, it could lead to Emery losing the dressing room which would be hugely problematic. I wouldn't rule that out.

 

[BigPoppaPump]

So Özil says he has a back issue, docs confirm it, and the coaches are pissed.

**** the coaches then tbh. They believed he could have played without much discomfort based on what exactly? Tarot cards? Jesus christ.

Most players have minor injuries and play through it. Would Mesut still have the same back issue if he was in the starting 11? I doubt it.

Let's be honest since Arsène's penultimate season Özil has taken lots of days off based on back injury and illness. I'm of the camp that believes most of it was bullshit.

 

[African Flair]

I wish you could like a post more than once. Wenger at the very least gives a damn about the club and would make decisions in the club's best interest.

Does he even Want it?

 

[Divided_Pie]

That comment from Xhaka makes me wonder what the dressing room thinks of Özil's situation.

If fans are upset that Özil isn't in the team imagine what the guys, some of who are actually friendly with him think about all of this. Imagine being Aubameyang or Lacazette and looking behind you for someone to create something and Özil isn't there.

I wouldn't doubt that this is causing frustration and possibly had something to do with Lacazette's red card. Laca has also been treated poorly by the coach.

 

[Beksl]

The club are tapping the Daily Mail to write hit pieces about players now. This is a new low.

Do you honestly believe this?

 

[celestis]

So Özil says he has a back issue, docs confirm it, and the coaches are pissed.

**** the coaches then tbh. They believed he could have played without much discomfort based on what exactly? Tarot cards? Jesus christ.

This is it though . if it shows up on a ****ing scan...... I commented on the shortness of his stride against Burnley there was definitely something wrong .

Well at least we know Unai is the one that wants him out for sure . We also know he had input in the decision of Ramsey not warranting a new contract.

That's a lot more palatable than Raul and Co influencing team selection .
The fact that all three were there in Bate watching means they are concerned about where we are heading.

 

[Garrincha]

What is the realistic payoff it will take for him to exit? Remember Adebayor taking City & then Sp**s to the cleaners on his way out but on a fraction of the wage + contract length.

350k a week until 2021 is an insane sum of money to be guaranteed.