Unai Emery: Adios

[hydrofluoric acid]

As I have said, Emery’s tactics is not the problem.
He just does not have the right type of players, so our style of football is not as attractive as you might want.
Just think, the manager who played the most beautiful tactics, guardiola. If you give him a team of:
———————Kyut——Walcott ——————
—————————Ramsey—————————
Milner——Gerrard——Lampard——W.Phillips
———————CB——CB——CB———————
——————————-GK——————————
Are you sure he will be able to play beautiful football with these players??

Emerys tactics are the problems. We have good attackers. We should be able to football to attack and at least have more than 20% possession away against Leicester. I get that defensive minded manager like Emery wanted to improve the defense first and attack later, but there has been no improvements in defense either.

 

[Football Manager]

Emerys tactics are the problems. We have good attackers. We should be able to football to attack and at least have more than 20% possession away against Leicester. I get that defensive minded manager like Emery wanted to improve the defense first and attack later, but there has been no improvements in defense either.

He is an attacking minded manager, his tactics push wing backs up, wingers and strikers are there to overload the box. That’s why we have to focus on defending because the opponent will take advantage of our attacking to play counter.

We have good attackers but they are traditional strikers who doesn’t help in keeping possession. Our team have no players who are technical enough to play possession football since cazorla left.

 

[TheEconomist]

I wanted to see improvements. I think I said it in the post.

Yea you had some points about wanting to see attacking football but I'm asking specifically what it would have taken for you to have deemed the season 8/10 or above, which you haven't answered. Surely If your judging this season 4/10 you should be able to say what more you were expecting.

If we were in the same position in the league and EL as we are now but we'd played more attractive football along the way would that be sufficient for you to say it's been an amazing season ?
Were you expecting a top 2 finish? Maybe an FA cup /EL double ?

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

He is an attacking minded manager, his tactics push wing backs up, wingers and strikers are there to overload the box. That’s why we have to focus on defending because the opponent will take advantage of our attacking to play counter.

We have good attackers but they are traditional strikers who doesn’t help in keeping possession. Our team have no players who are technical enough to play possession football since cazorla left.

I want to see us improve the attack. Its up to the manager.

 

[Arsenal1508]

Sack him if no CL.

He needs to win...otherwise, this is a poor season.

Dennis Suarez in January told me he cant even back the player he worked hard for us to sign.

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

Yea you had some points about wanting to see attacking football but I'm asking specifically what it would have taken for you to have deemed the season 8/10 or above, which you haven't answered. Surely If your judging this season 4/10 you should be able to say what more you were expecting.

If we were in the same position in the league and EL as we are now but we'd played more attractive football along the way would that be sufficient for you to say it's been an amazing season ?
Were you expecting a top 2 finish? Maybe an FA cup /EL double ?

top4 would have got him probably 7/10. Hard to give him much higher than that given that our football has been extremely uninspiring.

 

[Football Manager]

I want to see us improve the attack. Its up to the manager.

Wenger bought those players, not Emery.
If you want to see improvement, it will take a few transfer windows to build you a team of van persie, nasri, hleb, arshavin, cazorla, fabregas...instead of what we have now.

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

Wenger bought those players, not Emery.
If you want to see improvement, it will take a few transfer windows to build you a team of van persie, nasri, hleb, arshavin, cazorla, fabregas...instead of what we have now.

Emery bought 2 defenders and 1 GK. Defense barely improved. Emery had Lacazette, Aubameyang, Ramsey and Özil at the club. The attack is boring no matter what anyone tries to argue.

I will wait after transfer window to judge but I've zero confidence in Emery on the transfer market.

 

[Football Manager]

Emery bought 2 defenders and 1 GK. Defense barely improved. Emery had Lacazette, Aubameyang, Ramsey and Özil at the club. The attack is boring no matter what anyone tries to argue.

I will wait after transfer window to judge but I've zero confidence in Emery on the transfer market.

If you have laca, auba, ramsey and Özil, you will not be able to play attractive football.

If we have modern strikers like firmino or son, skillful midfielders like kdb or cazorla but we still can’t play beautiful football, then that would be a problem and I will be on your side.

We have two top class traditional strikers (poacher), which make us almost 8 against 10 in the build up.
That’s why I always want a skillful forward who can dribble past 2-3 players or able to drop deep to play one two/through passes in the build up.
In that way we will be 10 against 10 in the passing play, have complete control of the game and create a lot more chances overall for the team.

Laca is slightly better than auba in build up play. But all he does is to join the build up and play simple passes. His ability to help the build up with skills and beautiful through pass are still nowhere near the likes to firmino, son and aguero.

And also our team do not have players who are good at controlling the midfield. Özil is the specialist on making the final assist, but his build up play in the midfield is lacking. He can’t control the ball or play amazing combination as good as cazorla.
Iwobi and Mkhi are just average. Xhaka has some good long shot and long pass but he is not skillful enough. And with ramsey’s poor first touch, poor ball control, poor passing ability and poor tactical discipline, we always lost our midfield battle.

Emery played good attacking football in his previous teams. He just can’t do that in arsenal because we have too many non technical players.

 

[TheEconomist]

top4 would have got him probably 7/10. Hard to give him much higher than that given that our football has been extremely uninspiring.

Fair enough. Your entitled to your opinion of course. I do think you are overestimating the quality of the players Emery has had to work with though. I'm Wenger's biggest fan but I think if Wenger, or Arteta had been in charge this year we would have been in a a worse position than we are now

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

If you have laca, auba, ramsey and Özil, you will not be able to play attractive football.

I'm not expecting super attacking football like elite club. But Özil, Ramsey, Auba and Laca should at least allow Emery to play a decent attackin football, lay the foundations for the future and show some improvements attacking wise.

 

[em9999]

Absolutley stupid coming to any conclusion till hes had had at least two seasons to turn it around..

I see people say I'll back him and the club__
Yet entering into a whole list of reasons hes failing or will fail

Makes me sick.. Hes doing a bloody good job

 

[Football Manager]

I'm not expecting super attacking football like elite club. But Özil, Ramsey, Auba and Laca should at least allow Emery to play a decent attackin football, lay the foundations for the future and show some improvements attacking wise.

These players together will not allow any manager to play beautiful football. They are not skillful/technical enough to keep possession. You have two good poachers, a goal hanger and a player who only plays the final ball to assist.

But there is no quality in these players in the build up (keeping possession with skills/combination play). So if these players are so bad in build up, the only way to attack is to bypass the midfield.

Giving auba, laca, Özil and ramsey to emery is like giving these players to guardiola. You will not get beautiful football with these players no matter what the tactic is (I’m not comparing ability but the style of play).

———————Kyut——Walcott ——————
—————————Ramsey—————————
Milner——Gerrard——Lampard——W.Phillips
———————CB——CB——CB———————
——————————-GK——————————

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

These players together will not allow any manager to play beautiful football. They are not skillful/technical enough to keep possession. You have two good poachers, a goal hanger and a player who plays the final ball to assist.

But there is no quality in these players in the build up play (keeping possession with skills/combination play)

I'm talking about wanting to see improvements. I'm not expecting super attacking football this season but improvements. Lacazette, Aubameyang, Özil and Ramsey are all good enough for better football than we have displayed this season.

 

[Football Manager]

I'm talking about wanting to see improvements. I'm not expecting super attacking football this season but improvements. Lacazette, Aubameyang, Özil and Ramsey are all good enough for better football than we have displayed this season.

Laca, auba, Özil and ramsey are really not good enough, if you want beautiful football.

They are great attackers who get to the end of stuff. They are all about the end product. But they are ****, yes ****, in the build up, which is everything before the scoring chances.

If you put any one of them in the city squad, they will easily give you a world class performance, because they are all about the end product and don’t care anything happens before that. And city have the skillful players to keep possession.

But if you put all 4 in the city team, that will be a problem, it will not be functional. It’s like having 4 van nistelrooy. Each of them is great, but you don’t have anyone in the build up. This is not something that can be fixed with tactics.

 

[TheEconomist]

These players together will not allow any manager to play beautiful football. They are not skillful/technical enough to keep possession. You have two good poachers, a goal hanger and a player who only plays the final ball to assist.

But there is no quality in these players in the build up (keeping possession with skills/combination play). So if these players are so bad in build up, the only way to attack is to bypass the midfield.

Exactly this. Also the fact that the only width we've had for most of the season has come from Kolasinac and Iwobi. Most teams in the lower half of the table have better wide players than us. They're essential for an attacking, attractive type of football. The other top clubs have real quality in these positions, Mane, Salah, Son, Hazard, Sterling,Sane, Rashford/Martial. We've got ****ing iwobi . What do people expect ?

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

Laca, auba, Özil and ramsey are really not good enough. If you want beautiful football.
They are great attackers who get to the end of stuff. They are all about the end product. But they are ****, yes ****, in the build up, which is everything before you can have the scoring chances.

I'm not expecting super attacking football right now. I wanted to see improvements, that our football would be more inspiring and not boring like it has been. Auba, Laca, Özil and Ramsey are all good players to lay foundation and we can play better football than we have showed this season!

 

[Beksl]

I see people say I'll back him and the club__
Yet entering into a whole list of reasons hes failing or will fail

Makes me sick.. Hes doing a bloody good job

Agree. A lot of snakes in this thread.

 

[GunnerShy]

67-70 points in the league. Threw the top 4 away in the league. 5/10 for mine, couldn't get key results when it mattered in the last month.

That said, if we win the cup, 7/10. Then we need to by well in the market and the expectations rise for next season. Top 4 becomes the minimum.

 

[Jury]

He has done well getting us in EL final. And honestly don't get comparisons with Klopp or Pep, he will never do anything like they have done, at least they had idea right from the beginning how they wanted their teams to play.

Emery seems clueless in that regard and it has only got worse as the season went on. No attacking identity, going to away grounds acting like we are the smaller team all the team. We have many very good attackers but no attacking identity at our general attacking play as gotten worse as the season went on.

I constantly see him talking about like the defense is the focus, we want to defend, defend and defend more. Defend for the whole game. But that hasn't improved either that much. We don't even press better.

So there is a lot of work to do for Emery this summer, but I was hoping that this season would go into laying the foundations for next season, that we would see some improvements by now. I don't agree there are any improvements. So next season will probably also go into trying to improve all the things we should have worked on this season.

I give him 4/10 for this season, 6/10 if he wins EL but no matter what I will happy to see the back of him. But I know he will be here next season so I will keep backing him to do good things! We need our attack back, and stop being so boring. Top clubs in my opinion should be first attacking team but with good defensive foundations!

You just don't like the guy. Your expectations are irrational and you'll keep moving the goalposts regardless.

I hope you and the others all kill yourselves if we win the EL tbh. Im pulling no more punches on this issue. You're all cancerous. And you've all got the same thing in common. You all wanted Wenger to stay forever and you're all balls deep in Özil. Both will be gone soon, and you desperately need something to go your way. Very sad.