EmeryCouldnt
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Arteta didn’t seem to rate him much before his injury as well
I think he’s a potential great player. But I wouldn’t put the weight of saving the team on his shoulders.
Arteta didn’t seem to rate him much before his injury as well
Wenger was against the contract. He wanted to sign Özil again but not at that price.Wenger is responsible (along with Gazidis). He left the team in such a poor shape. The Özil contract, etc...
It’s going to take another 2 years before we can say it’s Arteta’s team.
This guy is more pragmatic than emery, and he seems to over complicate his team selections, just play players in their correct positions, and his excuse for not starting partey is just more evidence of him trying to make himself look smarter than he is, its not like we play a complicated system .....
You don't need to @ me every time posters write boll*cks. Tell them Wenger never signed 8 CBs for two positions, or spent millions lining the pockets of agents, or froze out our most valuable and highest paid player, so that he'd be worth nothing. And ask why, if Arsenal has solved it's defensive issues, we finished 8th last year. This year we've no idea where we'll finish yet.
Especially one so raw technically.A 19 year old coming back from knee surgery is not going to solve our attacking problems.
he also didnt let Aaron Ramsey go on a free and sign Willian on a free.. jeezYou don't need to @ me every time posters write boll*cks. Tell them Wenger never signed 8 CBs for two positions, or spent millions lining the pockets of agents, or froze out our most valuable and highest paid player, so that he'd be worth nothing. And ask why, if Arsenal has solved it's defensive issues, we finished 8th last year. This year we've no idea where we'll finish yet.
You don't need to @ me every time posters write boll*cks. Tell them Wenger never signed 8 CBs for two positions, or spent millions lining the pockets of agents, or froze out our most valuable and highest paid player, so that he'd be worth nothing. And ask why, if Arsenal has solved it's defensive issues, we finished 8th last year. This year we've no idea where we'll finish yet.
I wondered about that too , Drogba raping our defence and the Silvester/squillaci/vermaelen era .also bear in mind the paychological scars Arteta carries from being the only sane positional player in a totaly madcap swashbucking wengerball era
Did we finish 5th when Wenger left? We’re just asking to finish one position higher after a spend of hundreds of millions, multiple keepers, defenders signed, in a league where you’re competing with the poorest Utd since the 80s and poorest Chelsea set up pre Mourinho.
Nobody is asking Arteta to win a title.
C'mon mate, the final 5 years of Wenger the squad building was dire. It was also very short-termist and band-aid after band-aid, and only buying for the here and now, desperately trying to save his job or achieve the aims he hadn't been able to achieve for a long time. Aside from that many poor signings, more than the usual amount that will happen with any club.
I don't see how people can deny that the recruitment under Wenger in the last 5 years and squad planning in general was dire.
It was a scatter gun approach for sure but I’m tired of posters like @Manberg putting the blame on Wenger for our current problems when the man has been gone for 2 + years and his acquisitions are not even the issue. Wenger’s teams always were attacking yet manberg wants to blame our lack of offensive output on Wenger?
Arteta has significantly improved our defensive solidity and over structure. We do a lot more work off the ball and everyone seems to be pitching in. He has done very well on the areas that Wenger was deficient on over his last few years. However it has come at a cost offensively. We are very weak in terms of chance creation and shots taken over the last two seasons we have consistently been in the bottom half of the league in regards to those metrics.
Wenger has his faults for sure and Arteta has done very well in doing his best to fix our most glaring issues. However to act like Arteta is infallible and should not be criticized is also laughable.
I hope he is watching Leeds play and learn what attacking football looks like. It sure as hell ain’t keeper and cbs passing to each other to up possession stats
It was a scatter gun approach for sure but I’m tired of posters like @Manberg putting the blame on Wenger for our current problems when the man has been gone for 2 + years and his acquisitions are not even the issue. Wenger’s teams always were attacking yet manberg wants to blame our lack of offensive output on Wenger?
Arteta has significantly improved our defensive solidity and over structure. We do a lot more work off the ball and everyone seems to be pitching in. He has done very well on the areas that Wenger was deficient on over his last few years. However it has come at a cost offensively. We are very weak in terms of chance creation and shots taken over the last two seasons we have consistently been in the bottom half of the league in regards to those metrics.
Wenger has his faults for sure and Arteta has done very well in doing his best to fix our most glaring issues. However to act like Arteta is infallible and should not be criticized is also laughable.
They lost
Did we finish 5th when Wenger left? We’re just asking to finish one position higher after a spend of hundreds of millions, multiple keepers, defenders signed, in a league where you’re competing with the poorest Utd since the 80s and poorest Chelsea set up pre Mourinho.
Nobody is asking Arteta to win a title.
We sold 140M worth of players to spend that 130M in 17/18. The net spend in the 2 years you mentioned is 90M, 45M if you divide it between two seasons - which is peanuts.We finished 5th and 6th in Wenger's last two years. Arteta's spent £77m so far. You can count that over one year.
In 2017 - 2018 Wenger (or Gazidis/Mislintat) spent £138m. The year before that he spent £101m.
So this myth that Wenger didnt' spend is just that - a myth.
Source: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-arsenal/alletransfers/verein/11
Arteta needs a lot more backing.