Mikel Arteta: Aston La Vista To The Title?

[Tir Na Nog]

 

[Gunner D]

 

[tactica442]

Here is the non-negotiable to Mikel: Get the UCL qualification or get the sack. He was a lucky manager to win FA Cup first season with Auba scoring. He ousted Auba because the captain foudn lacking on the pitch and yet earning top money. Now the culture is shifting to Mikel’s wish but this team looks like back to its previous poor state. I don’t think his post is justufied if the team only qualified Europa next season. Without UCL next season, the saga with Saka will be going fierce.

 

[Rimaal]

I’m not in a rush if I’m being honest. Probably different for fans who are getting on like @Jury or @rich 1990 but I’m happy enough to see us add 3/4 quality additions over the next couple of windows until we have a squad to compete at the top.

Carry on the current strategy and in 2/3 years with or without Arteta we’ll be looking good. That all goes to pot if we start selling the likes of Saliba/Martinelli/Saka thought obviously.

A youth strategy with a manager who obviously does not know how to develop youthful players, but stunts them by either limiting their role on the pitch or relegating them to the bench is a foolish plan, imo.

 

[Hunta]

A youth strategy with a manager who obviously does not know how to develop youthful players, but stunts them by other limiting their role on the pitch or relegating them to the bench is a foolish plan, imo.

Again, it doesn’t matter in the long run as long as we keep our talented players and keep the same transfer strategy. Arteta won’t be here in two years, if we keep our transfers sensible and sign the right profiles we’ll be a much better place for when our new coach arrives.

 

[OnlyOne]

Here is the non-negotiable to Mikel: Get the UCL qualification or get the sack. He was a lucky manager to win FA Cup first season with Auba scoring. He ousted Auba because the captain foudn lacking on the pitch and yet earning top money. Now the culture is shifting to Mikel’s wish but this team looks like back to its previous poor state. I don’t think his post is justufied if the team only qualified Europa next season. Without UCL next season, the saga with Saka will be going fierce.

I think Saka will sign on in the summer without CL, this group of players seems bought into the 'project' however he'd probably have some sort of CL clause following.

I see us hopefully getting 5th and then we'll have another pretty big window and then it's 4th or sacked for me. Basing this purely on what I think the board will do.

For one reason or another, feel the board view this season as Mikels first. The comments from Edu suggest that anyway.

 

[Macho]

I think Saka will sign on in the summer without CL, this group of players seems bought into the 'project' however he'd probably have some sort of CL clause following.

I see us hopefully getting 5th and then we'll have another pretty big window and then it's 4th or sacked for me. Basing this purely on what I think the board will do.

For one reason or another, feel the board view this season as Mikels first. The comments from Edu suggest that anyway.

Think this is pretty accurate, ngl.

 

[Hunta]

I think Saka will sign on in the summer without CL, this group of players seems bought into the 'project' however he'd probably have some sort of CL clause following.

I see us hopefully getting 5th and then we'll have another pretty big window and then it's 4th or sacked for me. Basing this purely on what I think the board will do.

For one reason or another, feel the board view this season as Mikels first. The comments from Edu suggest that anyway.

Think we’re on the same page pal. The rest will catch up in a few months.

 

[OnlyOne]

Fwiw, if I am top coach, the last squad I'd want to take over is the one that gave up under Emery, now, however, I'd be licking my lips at the thought of taking this squad over. You could have Kroneke by the balls with the money spent since he joined as well.

Maybe we hired Mikel to be pest control.

 

[Macho]

You'd have to consider 5th a success at this point I think. I personally would anyways.

I don't really buy into 4th or sacked I'm afraid. I mean if it were up to me that would be the case, but like OnlyOne pointed out I don't think that's necessarily what we are trying to do here. Otherwise purchases would have been made in Jan.

 

[Hunta]

Can anybody find the Edu quotes about 22/23 being the season we compete?

Think Kia has had them erased from google.

 

[Rimaal]

Again, it doesn’t matter in the long run as long as we keep our talented players and keep the same transfer strategy. Arteta won’t be here in two years, if we keep our transfers sensible and sign the right profiles we’ll be a much better place for when our new coach arrives.

I doubt it you know. He's already hampered ESR, run Saka into the ground, knocked the wind out of Nuno and Lakonga, and completely decimated Pepe's price in the market.

You can make or break young players in the span of a couple of seasons under a right or wrong manager.

Why would you want to hand a puppy to a gorilla?

 

[OnlyOne]

Can anybody find the Edu quotes about 22/23 being the season we compete?

Think Kia has had them erased from google.

Check @A__G 's hardrive, gotta get through the Mari & Cedric whipped cream videos first.

 

[Hunta]

I doubt it you know. He's already hampered ESR, run Saka into the ground, knocked the wind out of Nuno and Lakonga, and completely decimated Pepe's price in the market.

You can make or break young players in the span of a couple of seasons under a right or wrong manager.

Why would you want to hand a puppy to a gorilla?

They all talk him up though? Saka/ESR/Gabi have put up the numbers this season as well.

I just think, even though next season will end in failure and he’ll get sacked, we’ll have a group of 12-15 top four quality players that a new coach would love to work with.

 

[Rimaal]

Fwiw, if I am top coach, the last squad I'd want to take over is the one that gave up under Emery, now, however, I'd be licking my lips at the thought of taking this squad over. You could have Kroneke by the balls with the money spent since he joined as well.

Maybe we hired Mikel to be pest control.

The resemblance is uncanny, tbf.

 

[UpTheGunnerz]

No doubt he can be a good coach but he needs to work his way up I think.

 

[Macho]

Fwiw, if I am top coach, the last squad I'd want to take over is the one that gave up under Emery, now, however, I'd be licking my lips at the thought of taking this squad over. You could have Kroneke by the balls with the money spent since he joined as well.

Maybe we hired Mikel to be pest control.

My only thing with this is I'm not convinced Ramsdale, Tomi, Ben White and Ødegaard start under every manager.

They are very specific players brought here for Mikel for a lot of money and I wouldn't put them in the same bracket as Saka, Partey and Tierney where you'd imagine any coach on the planet is happy with them.

If we do move on from Tets then the next coach would have to have plans for our current starting 11, which every coach claims to do in the interview before eventually wanting their own players (like Arteta and Emery).

They all talk him up though?

They literally don't know any better and have witnessed Mikel destroy far bigger and arguably important players without flinching. What else are they going to say?

 

[OnlyOne]

No doubt he can be a good coach but he needs to work his way up I think.

 

[AberGooner]

You have to consider 5th a success at this point I think. I personally would anyways.

I don't really buy into 4th or sacked I'm afraid. I mean if it were up to me that would be the case, but like OnlyOne pointed out I don't think that's necessarily what we are trying to do here. Otherwise purchases would have been made in Jan.

And that's the saddest part. The expections of this club are going further and further down the toilet. Not that I've ever thought top 4 is some mythical thing but the longer we go without it the more it will be accepted.

They can say what they like but there's absolutely no way they appointed Arteta with the intention of taking 4 or 5 years to get into the CL again.

 

[Penn_]

Wenger and Emery sacked for not achieving fourth, but Arteta deserves a pat on the back for maybe achieving fifth?

When does this bs end? We’ve created one more big chance than Burnley.