5-1 is very unfair I feel.
I think it’s clear we don’t have a great academy. Didn’t we lose by 7 to psv? Clubs like West Ham, Fulham or charlton has as good if not better academy. An academy is as good as the coaches it has and talent scouting. Giving ex players a job coaching your academy as a toy to play it is amateurishNo actually it's not that important at this level. Consider how few players we had progress from the team that actually won in 09. Coquelin and Wilshere. Could count Ayling aswell. The development they get from playing against teams bigger and stronger than them is far more critical.
Respectfully, you don't know what you're talking about so I'll leave it there.I think it’s clear we don’t have a great academy. Didn’t we lose by 7 to psv? Clubs like West Ham, Fulham or charlton has as good if not better academy. An academy is as good as the coaches it has and talent scouting. Giving ex players a job coaching your academy as a toy to play it is amateurish
What has wilshere done outside of being ex player to say he should manage your young talents at their most crucial state?
You don’t get points for having younger team. Arsenal like to have younger player each age group which means for years these kids has lost a lot against older kids. It’s important kids learn how to win to progres
I think they'll learn a lot from this L, as painful as it was. The last team we had that did well in the U18 league had a lot of 2nd years in it. This team we have a lot of early developers and we need to challenge them like this.Sorry, but that's nonsense. Its all about getting players able to contribute to the first team squad or be sold for good fees. Nothing else really matters. And as a club we are currently one of the best in the EPL at that. Sure West Ham spanked us tonight, but how many of their lads looked like they have the skillset to potentially play at the top level? 2-3. There's more in our spanked team who look able to play higher level football - the two young lads, walters, roziak, Sousa, ACD at least have serious pro potential due to technical ability.
At this age, a year's age difference is absolutely massive in terms of physicality, mentality and know how, but it doesn't give any great indication of the longer term. Otherwise JET would have been a world beater because he totally dominated at younger levels and it looked easy for him
Sorry, but that's nonsense. Its all about getting players able to contribute to the first team squad or be sold for good fees. Nothing else really matters. And as a club we are currently one of the best in the EPL at that. Sure West Ham spanked us tonight, but how many of their lads looked like they have the skillset to potentially play at the top level? 2-3. There's more in our spanked team who look able to play higher level football - the two young lads, walters, roziak, Sousa, ACD at least have serious pro potential due to technical ability.
At this age, a year's age difference is absolutely massive in terms of physicality, mentality and know how, but it doesn't give any great indication of the longer term. Otherwise JET would have been a world beater because he totally dominated at younger levels and it looked easy for him
Respectfully, you don't know what you're talking about so I'll leave it there.
I know being miserable about everything is your M.O. but if we have such a weak academy, why do we have 4 academy kids as part of this years first team squad proper, one of whom may be our best player, plus another 2-3 on loan doing really well who may be able to contribute next year or generate big fees, plus even AMN having lost his way made a good contribution, plus about £85m in academy kid sales over the last 3-4 years. Who else in England at the top top level can say much better than that?I think it’s clear we don’t have a great academy. Didn’t we lose by 7 to psv? Clubs like West Ham, Fulham or charlton has as good if not better academy. An academy is as good as the coaches it has and talent scouting. Giving ex players a job coaching your academy as a toy to play it is amateurish
What has wilshere done outside of being ex player to say he should manage your young talents at their most crucial state?
Yeah, otherwise you end up with teams like this year's u21s in the second half the season or last year, where there were multiple people playing who will never get a sniff of the first team, even in LC gamesI think they'll learn a lot from this L, as painful as it was. The last team we had that did well in the U18 league had a lot of 2nd years in it. This team we have a lot of early developers and we need to challenge them like this.
Both ex coaches and ex players have put in real work over the years.. There's an experience players get while on the field at the highest level that counts for something in coaching , and that is why they begin their courses at UEFA A level and not where non players begin. Secondly, If you follow Wilshere he's been coaching grassroots even while in West Ham and Bournemouth and has organized several tournaments for his kids over the years so he's not just some ex player handed a token, he's put in his own work . Third, all across the academy we have coaches who've been given opportunities despite having no career in football.. Mehmet Ali the u21 coach is one of them, their boss Luke Hobbs is another . You need a balance of both.If I’m really serious about my academy and I want to produce as many good players as possible. I would really focus on coaches. Wilshere getting this job is one of the things that frustrate a lot of coaches. Ex players just come in and get coaching jobs while real coaches who put work in for years get overlooked
I don't know whether you'd want to hear or not since more than once you've been adamant of how **** our academy is despite them being in an FA Youth Cup Final . Academy football is much more nuanced than just focusing on the resultsThe fact that you think we have more players in that team that will play at high level than West Ham is delusional. They already have a player who played and scored for the first team.
Marathon, not a sprint. Arturo Lupoli had done more at the same age for us. Also, the player you refer to is more than 2 years older than a player from last night who has played in the EPL for us...The fact that you think we have more players in that team that will play at high level than West Ham is delusional. They already have a player who played and scored for the first team.
It is a little odd, but we don't know what the division of labour is between him and those working alongside him. We also don't know if he's any good or not. Perhaps the club feel that an academy kid who played for England and could have been a superstar but was hit by injuries and made poor choices is a more inspiring and instructive role model than the majority of youth coaches who peaked out at league 2 and retired young without ever having a sniff of the big time. I'm not sure where I stand, but it does seem he has experienced coaches supporting himIf I’m really serious about my academy and I want to produce as many good players as possible. I would really focus on coaches. Wilshere getting this job is one of the things that frustrate a lot of coaches. Ex players just come in and get coaching jobs while real coaches who put work in for years get overlooked
Respectfully, you don't know what you're talking about so I'll leave it there.
I understand that point though I still don't get what handed on a silver platter Is in relation to a coach who's began at u18 level. Where is Wilshere with all his top flight experience expected to start off Southend u9s? . Eddie Howe finished playing and immediately began coaching at first team level in league 2 , and slowly rose up the ranks. Same to many PL coaches who ended playing atleast at league 2 level .. Wilshere will still have to do some years before he even gets there to a first team.He makes a point about ex players being handed jobs without necessarily earning it.
When I hear Wilshere speak, he doesn't seem very fluent nor the type to motivate others but maybe that's just me.
Of course our academy is full of talented players though, we've had one of the best youth systems I'm Europe for over 30 years.
He is very talented really impressed me the few times I've watched him,.and looked like a man against boys yesterday. Just to give us more perspective of the nuances of youth football. Kodua is only 2 months younger than Sagoe Jr who was ineligible yesterday. Sagoe Jr has played 33 games at u21 level this season while Kodua has played 5.That Kodua for West Ham looks very promising. We should poach him in an act of revenge.