“We need another player who gets 10 or 15 goals" - Wenger

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  1. Anzac

    Anzac Active Member

    IMO it's a consequence of this collective approach to both attacking /goal scoring & defending, without necessarily having the players suited to do either score or defend = it's the imbalance of too many creative ball players.
     
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  2. Rain Dance

    Rain Dance Well-Known Member Trusted

    Isn't that guy Sanchez?
     
  3. Furious

    Furious Xhaka Propagandist

    Two of those are loaned out, you can "see" them if you want. I've seen a lot of Campbell for Villarreal and he's been absolutely terrible, no way does he deserve game time here. His time is over imo.
     
  4. Anzac

    Anzac Active Member

    I think it would be easier to add goals via a WF/ST as IMO Aw wants to retain this current set up based around Giroud as CF.
    Given the choice I'd replace Giroud with Lukaku but still have goal scoring capability from elsewhere to compliment.
     
  5. Anzac

    Anzac Active Member

    I don't subscribe to the idea that our solution is based upon current internal options.
    Hell I'd rather play 4312 than rely upon Giroud as lone CF.
     
  6. Anzac

    Anzac Active Member

    and then there was 1????
    As I said earlier IMO the core issue is the collective approach to both attack & defence. Back in The Invincibles we had 3 primary/regular goal scorers in TH, Pires & Ljungberg, with both DB & PV adding in more reliably than our current options.
     
  7. Rain Dance

    Rain Dance Well-Known Member Trusted

    that post was pretty much responding to this line,
    And about your post, I believe Wenger also share your view that we should be reliant to a single goal scorer but more focused on sharing goals evenly in our team.
    We clearly see the signs that Wenger learned (the hard way) whenever our 30 goals player left (or injured) our attacks were literally blunt, from Greedy and Judas departure.

    We are beginning to move back toward the times of Invicibles where goals are shared in our team almost evenly in comparison to the days of Cesc where we are reliant to the CF and AM to provide chances and goals.
     
  8. Rain Dance

    Rain Dance Well-Known Member Trusted

    How about Schurrle? That guy looks like a German Walcott...
     
  9. Anzac

    Anzac Active Member

    I would have liked him before he went to CFC, but I don't see Wolfsburg being in any hurry to sell.
    I think he's better than Walcott - same for any number of players.
    IMO the 2 attributes Walcott has over many are pace & his runs ioff the ball. That said I think the likes of Lacazette can also provide this having worked as SS.
     
  10. Anzac

    Anzac Active Member

    Yeah IMO we dumbed down our capability far too much towards the equality of the collective post RVP = for far too long we were ****e and incapable of scoring goals reliably in the clinches.
    Walcott hasn't been able to stay fit long enough to be a reliable 2nd option, and Giroud wasn't reliable enough to be primary option, and the CM/AMs were/are primarily creators not finishers.
     
  11. clockwork orange

    clockwork orange Blind faith in "LVG filoshophy" Elite

    Watched Bayer Leverkusen yesterday again. Not convinced about either Bellarabi or Firmino.

    My favourite additional goalscorer would be Griezmann.
     
  12. pikey2000

    pikey2000 Well-Known Member

    Is Higuain still banging them in?
     
  13. infineon

    infineon Active Member

    20+ this season and last. He's a goalscorer no doubt but I doubt he fits in Wenger's plans.
     
  14. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    He is good finisher can score 15-20 goals in the season without problem but every time i watch him with Napoli i'm not impressed with his all round game he just waiting in the box for the ball come to him unlike Giroud who try to create spaces for him teammates, the Napoli fans are not impressed with Higuain work rate this season.
     
  15. infineon

    infineon Active Member

    A quick check on Wikipedia would contradict this statement:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003–04_Arsenal_F.C._season#Player_statistics

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007–08_Arsenal_F.C._season

    I do not really see much difference. A similar range of goal scorers in both seasons. Most seasons there was always one leading goal scorer, one deputy with a solid 10+ and then a selection of players who chipped in a few goals (1-10).

    The exception is probably 2009/10 squad which was quite frankly a bit poor that year.
     
  16. Taylor Gang Gunners

    Taylor Gang Gunners Shame is a dish best served cold Trusted

    Welbeck frustrates the life out of me, his natural attributes (speed, close control, balance, stamina) all top notch. But his decision making and predatory instinct is severely lacking. If Wenger can turn Welbeck into a goalscorer that'll be one of his greatest accomplishments IMO.

    That said, he turned shot-shy Cesc into a CAM who was capable of double figures, so maybe it's not that much of a stretch.
     
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  17. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    Welbeck need to work alot in training with his finishing hopefully Wenger can make Welbeck better.
     
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  18. celestis

    celestis Arsenal-Mania Veteran Moderator

    I reckon there is a good fwd waiting to come out , lord knows his athletic ability is superior to just about anything in the league ,it's unbelievable . Cesc was actually quite prolific as a kid and top scorer at one of the junior WC's
    that Spain won .
     
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  19. Taylor Gang Gunners

    Taylor Gang Gunners Shame is a dish best served cold Trusted

    Yeah there's a lot to work with with Welbeck, his performances for England are testament to that, dude plays like El-Phenomeno himself. As for Cesc I had no idea! I just remember him being a kid here and looking for a pass every time there was an opportunity to go for goal himself.

    I suppose you learn something new every day :D
     
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  20. ArsenesNO1Fan

    ArsenesNO1Fan Well-Known Member

    I think this is it really, Wenger wants Özil to add more goals and he has been doing so and can continue to improve. Welbeck and Chamberlain need to improve their end product.

    All 3 of those happening is probably as exciting as a new signing.
     
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