Arsène Wenger: Same Old Class

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by Makingtrax, Oct 7, 2016.

  1. Tosker

    Tosker Well-Known Member

    I can't see him signing for two years either, as with his oft repeated mantra of always fulfilling a contract, he would not see himself getting out if it all gets even nastier
     
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  2. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Hipster

    He's not holding anyone to ransom, it's up to Gazidiz and the owners to lay down a time limit for him to decide.

    If we've spoken to Allegri as rumoured, then the club must have some idea what's happening.
     
  3. carlito'sway

    carlito'sway Well-Known Member

    Seriously? Dude.... come on now.
     
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  4. carlito'sway

    carlito'sway Well-Known Member

    I don't know.... One year with a transition plan, New DOF and the likes, may be an option. I can't see him jumping ship at the end of the season and leaving this mess of a team behind.
     
  5. carlito'sway

    carlito'sway Well-Known Member

    Actually, I don't think it would be. There is a vocal minority that would not be happy but most fans would understand that a transition is taking place.
     
  6. To Be A Rock

    To Be A Rock Well-Known Member

    At the end of the day he's an EMPLOYEE, only the owner can carry on without fear of the sack. All this 'holding to ransom' and 'forcing' this person and that person is such nonsense. He's not a Jedi ffs, the same as fans moaning about ticket prices yet still paying them then moaning about how do we get something done
     
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  7. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Hipster

    If we don't finish top 4 he'll have probably failed on the minimum requirement on his current deal, so he'll walk having come short.

    You also can't sell a new deal to fans on what to me looks like a rough end to the season with a league finish of 4-6.

    Right now, I believe there looks to be no grounds at all for an extension.
     
  8. carlito'sway

    carlito'sway Well-Known Member

    Dude, are you ok? :rolleyes:
     
  9. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Hipster

    I don't know, looks a lame duck type scenario.
     
  10. carlito'sway

    carlito'sway Well-Known Member

    It might as well be. I can bet with you that the Board would loathe the idea of pushing Arséne out this summer or giving the appearance of giving up to a vocal minority. I don't think the club is prepared for the jump either.
     
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  11. carlito'sway

    carlito'sway Well-Known Member

    To brighten your day, check out the Mbappe goal he just scored for Monaco vs Caen...... This kid is a gem. :drool:. Posted in the french league thread.
     
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  12. Deathstroke

    Deathstroke The Terminator

    Good lord, no. When he leaves the post, it has to be a clean break. Let the new man bring in his staff (though I can understand keeping someone like Bould/Banfield to help with the transition); let's exorcise the club of the complacency and loser culture it's been infected with for so long.

    The question of dealing with Kroencula and the other vampires is another matter entirely.
     
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  13. OShea's2010

    OShea's2010 Well-Known Member

    people prob said Leicester were a mess of a team before ranieri left
     
  14. GoonerJeeves

    GoonerJeeves Up The Terriers

    You might be right, but I've never experienced the climate as divisive as now.
     
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  15. carlito'sway

    carlito'sway Well-Known Member

    O.K.
     
  16. OShea's2010

    OShea's2010 Well-Known Member

    Wengers not thinking about a transition. He's just trying to hang on to the job as long as possible. He'll prob be angling for another one yr deal after this one
     
  17. law90026

    law90026 Well-Known Member

    If you believe he's only an employee, you're sorely mistaken. If he was truly just an employee, he would already be out the door. See Ranieri as an example.

    All the talk to date, which few dispute, is that the ball is in Wenger's court. He's the one who has to decide whether to sign the contract or not. Even now, the talk about the contract being changed to a 1 year contract still indicates that it's in his court because the offer has been made.

    Any well run organisation would have set a hard deadline on an offer instead of leaving it at the offeree's discretion. In the course of my work, I've even seen organisations immediately start looking for a replacement for a senior position once the incumbent talks about maybe not continuing or wanting a change, simply because effecting change at a senior level is incredibly complex and not just something that can be done in the space of a month.

    Think about it: it takes time to negotiate a new contract with another manager, especially one that is already at a club. But that's not all in this case. The new manager needs time to come in and assess the squad and decide on transfer policy and transfers also take time. By leaving this to the last minute, the club is essentially putting itself in an untenable position for next season and all this because Wenger doesn't want to state what he wants to do next.

    Stay or go, it's largely irrelevant by now though. If he stays, it's more of the same, maybe a little better, more likely somewhat worse. But if he goes without giving the club time to prepare? That's why it's called ransom. At some point, the club pretty much has to beg him to stay or face a situation where next season is a complete write-off.
     
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  18. OShea's2010

    OShea's2010 Well-Known Member

    good comeback
     
  19. carlito'sway

    carlito'sway Well-Known Member

    OKAY
     
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  20. happyhappy

    happyhappy Active Member

    If this rumoured 1 yr contract is true, it is a sign that the board wants him to retire from his current position. The board isn't stupid, if a new manager is already lined up, Wenger won't get the money to spend. With that in mind, signing on for just 1 more year will be suicidal for his reputation if everything goes south. We all know this squad needs some good investment or new ideas. He's been playing mind games with the fans for some time, so now is time for the board to do similar.

    Both the board and Wenger himself are equally culpable for the current situation.
     
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