Arsène Wenger: Same Old Excuses

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by redwhiteAustrian, May 31, 2017.


Is Wenger still the right man for the job?

  1. Yes

  2. No

  1. dashsnow17

    dashsnow17 Well-Known Member

    Out of politeness maybe. You made a thinly veiled insult, I'd like to at least understand what you meant.
  2. Rimaal

    Rimaal Questionable Taste

    It's obvious by now that what you understand from a statement is completely different from what I would take from it.

    So, why bother?

    Take in any way that suits, it's entirely up to you.
  3. Batman

    Batman Bruce Wayne

    Why? They're a team that can't win the CL. What possible benefit would there be turning to a manager years past his sell by date who couldn't win the CL in his prime with one of the best squads in modern history?
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  4. Batman

    Batman Bruce Wayne

    Of course it counts but it's a 2nd tier European trophy. It doesn't measure up to the CL or its predecessor. It's like a Europa League level trophy.
  5. American_Gooner

    American_Gooner Not actually American. Unless Di Marzio says so. Moderator

    The Wenger to PSG links came from the French equivalent of The Sun. The local Parisian press has Conte, Pochettino, Allegri and Luis Enrique on their shortlist.
  6. dashsnow17

    dashsnow17 Well-Known Member

    Never mind your dig at me, you've posted stuff recently calling Wenger a dictator and senile. If I were you I'd be prepared to back up my statements if I said stuff like that, instead of effectively saying "take what you will from it, it's not my problem".
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  7. Batman

    Batman Bruce Wayne

    Without even questioning Ramsey's leadership(which he's never displayed) or the consistency of his play, do we really want a captain who misses as much time each season as he does? Haven't we had enough of that. I mean people remember that Mertesacker has been captain all this time right? I know we're really short of suitable candidates but surely the armband should be given to someone who has clearly demonstrated themselves to be a leader of men as well as someone who can be relied upon to stay on the pitch both through remaining healthy and through consistent play always justifying their place in the team.
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  8. carlito'sway

    carlito'sway Well-Known Member

    Mate, don't are wasting your energy with one of the most toxic posters on this board. That someone can be so vitriolic and spiteful on a football board is hard to even wrap my head around. Perspective is not everyone's cup of tea.
  9. Jae

    Jae Well-Known Member

    Agreed, this may have changed within the past few years, but if you added up the points tally from every season since the football league started we were at the top (or at least we used to be).
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  10. Enfield

    Enfield Well-Known Member

    I reckon he would make a fine captain. Top end player, will always be on our starting 11 and IMO he has shown loads of character from rebuilding his leg and then career to scoring a lot of important goals in cup finals etc.

    Either way I'm emotionally invested in Juve doing the business tonight.
  11. Enfield

    Enfield Well-Known Member

    Playing the current AC Milan brings me no joy at all, mainly because I don't think we will front up and show them what we can do.

    And now the spuds have scored. O how I'd love to have a team who would be bang up for a game.
  12. Enfield

    Enfield Well-Known Member

    Lads, if there us anyone on here now. Turn on the spuds game, Juve are leading and it's potentially glorious
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  13. Batman

    Batman Bruce Wayne

    I mean he lost his job as Wales captain so I'm not so sure and there seems to be rumblings that he wants out. It's not impossible. Thankfully Juve have done the business. That was probably the last bit of enjoyable football for us this season, well until they bottle the FA Cup.
  14. Mark Tobias

    Mark Tobias Mmhmm yes, I agree

    Read the rest of the thread FFS. Tonsil.
  15. scytheavatar

    scytheavatar Well-Known Member

    I reckon Ramsey's the type of character who is unpopular in the dressing room. From stories of him constantly crashing with players (apparently Van Persie wanted him gone at one stage) to how he's the type of can defend but thinks he's too good to be defending player that everyone hates...... I suspect not much tears will be shred by other Arsenal players when he leaves us.
  16. Crocrodile

    Crocrodile Well-Known Member

    Multiple reports of him surrounding himself with yes men and other people having no say from the club, make whatever you want of that, sounds kinda like a dictator, what you 'd feel better if he said autocrat or what?

    He 's senile if you take his statements and put them into context, like his son wouldn't be the best to play he wouldn't, yet he plays the same people with no accountability, he 's said he 'll be at the club until he is the best club to take the club forward, he also always repeats same bullshit as if he has amnesia and this happened the first time. He has always said he 'll do what 's in best interest of the club, yet you all know what happens. Is he an intelligent moneygrabbing SOB or a senile old-man? Choose wisely.

    You have to realise you 're dealing with people with different cultural and language backgrounds. But if you 're a Lit grad as you say, I am surprised that you 're arguing semantic instead of realizing what Rimaal said is under the field of pragmatical linguistics and has its own context made in its own time. These words can only be explained by Rimaal and her "dictator" and "senile" have a different meaning compared to the definition in the dictionary. You were close, but missed it just for one science discipline. Both words have been used by posters before and there was no such fuss before. I know some of you love Wenger and act like even he 's past it he shouldn't be insulted, but face it, he 's starting get on some people nerves and that 's been going on for years.
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  17. Özillionaire

    Özillionaire Well-Known Member

    Also pains me to read people comparing table finishes in the 70s and 80s to now. In those days almost everyone was on a pretty level playing field when compared to now - the monumental influx of money has been shared mostly amongst the country's top clubs to the extent that it is exponentially more likely for Arsenal to be in the top 6 these days than back then - when there wasn't such a debilitating factor for smaller clubs.
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  18. carlito'sway

    carlito'sway Well-Known Member

    What a garbage post.....SMH.
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  19. dashsnow17

    dashsnow17 Well-Known Member

    Sounds like you're favouring the pragmatics while ignoring the semantics based solely on personal preference for what was said. How about we just agree to disagree and leave it at that. Also just for the record I don't study linguistics and linguistic theory has nothing to do with what I do, so stop thinking i'm some sort of Noam Chomsky wannabe, thanks.
  20. YeahBee

    YeahBee Sign all the Swedes

    Both very apropo (spl?) likenesses imo

    Dictators even after a good start run their countries down

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