Donny van de Beek

Discussion in 'Transfer Rumours' started by American_Gooner, May 8, 2019.

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  1. HollandGooner

    HollandGooner Well-Known Member

    Not typical better but Ziyech is more of a Özil replacement and Van De Beek a Ramsey replacement would take both in a heartbeat.
     
  2. Football Manager

    Football Manager Broken Record

    I just want to replace Özil and cazorla.
    Never want my midfielders to be always out of position.
     
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  3. Flying Okapis

    Flying Okapis Well-Known Member

    I get what you're saying, just find some players have a thing for cup competitions and when they are hot they are hot, see it a lot in the world cup etc.

    I personally don't know, he may be an amazing signing/player, I really have no idea as I don't watch Ajax outside of the big CL games, I didn't even know who he was until the CL knockout stages to be honest.
     
  4. TornadoTed

    TornadoTed Well-Known Member

    Yeah I am also very suspicious of players who have a blinding season/World Cup/Champions League.

    The last thing we need is another El Hadji Diouf, Kleberson, Drinkwater, Bakayoko etc.

    I would maybe risk £20m on a small sample size player but not the £50m+ it will take to get this guy.
     
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  5. Furious

    Furious Xhaka Propagandist

    This guy is not Ziyech.
     
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  6. Dennis_Bergkamp_10

    Dennis_Bergkamp_10 Well-Known Member

    Want him.

    We won't get him though. Makes to much sense as a player yet probably costs too much.
     
  7. hydrofluoric acid

    hydrofluoric acid Prefers To Be Called Dennis

    I'm pretty sure that it will be Manchester City, Barcelona and maybe Tottenham who will get players from Ajax. We haven't even started talking to agents yet I read somewhere yesterday. The minute we call Ajax they will have closed the shop. Just like Monaco last time.
     
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  8. Zaza

    Zaza Well-Known Member

    It would a dream if we got Aouar. Love that guy.
    Van De Beek is great as well.
     
  9. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator



    we aren't getting him but you can hope a perfect Ramsey replacement.
     
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  10. truth_hurts

    truth_hurts Well-Known Member

    A time when Sp**s have more muscle than us in a transfer is bloody frightening.
     
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  11. hydrofluoric acid

    hydrofluoric acid Prefers To Be Called Dennis

    Well if you snooze you lose. That seems to have happened for us.
     
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  12. thierrytheking14

    thierrytheking14 Well-Known Member

    Yep, except our snooze lasted for the good part of a decade.

    Not so much a snooze as outright hibernation.
     
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  13. dashsnow17

    dashsnow17 Established Member

    I'd rather Ziyech than Van de Beek fwiw, but just in general I don't buy that we can't attract players from Ajax. Yeah we're a sh*tshow right now, but compared to Ajax we can offer higher wages and PL football. People underestimate just how attractive the PL is. I'd say PL + EL outweighs Eredivisie + CL.
     
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  14. Maybe

    Maybe Well-Known Member

    It's always about money. Football players are willing to go to China for that, so I feel confident that we can attract some good players to London.

    I would welcome both of them here. I like Van de Beek more but we are desperate for players like Ziyech. CM and AMC roles can be filled with our youth resources.
     
  15. 14Henry

    14Henry Well-Known Member

    We are only attractive for these type of players if City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Sp**s, man United, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juventus, PSG aren't interested in them.

    If it's a straight shot for a player for example between us and Everton they come to us. But any of the above no.

    There they will get money and potentially titles. With us they know they ain't getting money or titles.

    Hence why we need to change direction. Scout the best young players at 18-19 and we make them good. No point waiting to they develop at another club and become 50-60m players overnight.

    Seen in reports Leicester won't listen yo anything under 60-70m for Maddison. That's ludicrous but shows the market. Time to raid the championship and the lower leagues looking for Guendouzis and Holdings.

    Really can't get my head around how we have fallen so far. Poor decisions by everyone in the last 10 years will likely see us never win another league title in 20 years or more unless something radically changes

    Could be sitting here with Klopp or Guardiola and while we may not be winning titles or champions leagues we would have a pull factor and attractiveness. Now we have nothing.
     
  16. Mitch

    Mitch Bellerin Upgrade Advocate

    We have Xhaka, Torrieira, Guendouzi and Chambers. We don't need another CM.

    Focus should be RB as priority , CB and winger.
     
  17. 14Henry

    14Henry Well-Known Member

    Of course we need a centre midfielder. Our central midfield is terrible. Xhaka is slow and has no positional awareness. The others are young players who are still learning their trade.

    Callum Chambers is not good enough for Arsenal.

    We need a CB a LB is much more urgent than a right back a CM and a wide player.

    Left back is shocking for us. We need a commanding centre back who makes them around him calmer and better organised. We need a wide player to beat a man and make full backs afraid to push too far forward and we need a central midfielder who has both abit of creativity as well and someone who will put themselves about and understand their position when to go and when to stay.
     
  18. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    All these 4 are more deep midfield players they don't have ability to go forward hold the ball. We need ramsey replacement we saw how much we struggle without him.
     
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  19. Mitch

    Mitch Bellerin Upgrade Advocate

    Well that's untrue, our best form was september till early Decmeber where Ramsey was a squad player. Ramsey became a automatic starter after he signed for Juventus later in the season
     
  20. Maybe

    Maybe Well-Known Member

    We did attract some high profile players in recent years like Sanchez, Auba and Özil. Chelsea, Sp**s and Liverpool didn't get any big names except van dijk.
     
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