Eddie Nket14h: Answering The 📞 From England

[fute]

Arteta doesn't have a problem with him.

 

[PrinzPoldi]

Arteta doesn't have a problem with him.

Arteta does not need to "say" anything.
Message already sent by starting Trossard and Kai as striker.

Let's see if Eddie wil start tonight or not.

 

[fute]

Arteta does not need to "say" anything.
Message already sent by starting Trossard and Kai as striker.

Let's see if Eddie wil start tonight or not.

There is nothing to say.

Eddie is not a starter. He is the backup.

Arteta has played him accordingly.

If people are mad about the backup: Find a better backup who is starter-quality happy with being a backup and not playing.

Plenty of those guys are around apparently.

 

[PrinzPoldi]

There is nothing to say.

Eddie is not a starter. He is the backup.

Arteta has played him accordingly.

If people are mad about the backup: Find a better backup who is starter-quality happy with being a backup and not playing.

Plenty of those guys are around apparently.

then it depends how people defining "back up".

a back up that sees very limited playing time, or a back up that could help serving as part of rotation and relief the pressure and work load of the starters?

I don't have problem with Eddie's salary, and don't want to use the word "not good enough".
I'll say he is not "suitable" for us because we cannot and we will not play his strengths.

 

[ArsenesCoatMaker]

There is nothing to say.

Eddie is not a starter. He is the backup.

Arteta has played him accordingly.

If people are mad about the backup: Find a better backup who is starter-quality happy with being a backup and not playing.

Plenty of those guys are around apparently.

I mean City have Alvarez and Liverpool have Jota/Nunez/Gakpo and all of those are much better

 

[fute]

I mean City have Alvarez and Liverpool have Jota/Nunez/Gakpo and all of those are much better

I mean they also have Klopp and Pep.

 

[TH14shahriar]

He's just useless.

 

[fute]

I blame Eddie for the game winner today.

Raya saves it if it wasn't for Eddie.

If he didn't play today, we win 5-0.

 

[amigo]

Part of our recent match winning success has been been via using fresh subs, the quality drops but you get energy. This game for whatever reason Arteta did not do that and didn't release Eddie, Nelson etc. Was it tiredness that brought on the lack of concentration at the very end?

 

[Penn_]

Part of our recent match winning success has been been via using fresh subs, the quality drops but you get energy. This game for whatever reason Arteta did not do that and didn't release Eddie, Nelson etc. Was it tiredness that brought on the lack of concentration at the very end?

This might be a bold claim but I think our recent run might be more down to the 3/4 goals we scored before the subs come on.

 

[avenellroad]

There is nothing to say.

Eddie is not a starter. He is the backup.

Arteta has played him accordingly.

If people are mad about the backup: Find a better backup who is starter-quality happy with being a backup and not playing.

Plenty of those guys are around apparently.

He’s still a ****e backup though. On the wages he’s on it shouldn’t be unreasonable to think he could be a contender for a starting place here. Unfortunately he does nothing other than statpad whatever mediocre stats he has against the likes of Sheffield United whilst being happy to sit on the bench. Offers nothing against any semi-decent opposition.

We need to bin him this summer.

 

[TheGreatWright8]

The end is nigh, he's 4th option.

 

[MATHEO]

Our xG and Goals exploded when this guy is benched, who would've thought that putting your worst player in terms of technique in the most technically demanding position on the pitch is going to hurt the creativity of your team.


Yes benching Eddie wasnt the only factor as there was a few tweaks in tactics, but people underestimate the effect of one play can have on the team. In the case of Eddie for example, I read somewhere that he only managed to make progress with the ball (throughout passing and dribbling .. etc) half as much as Jesus did last season per 90. If we assume a central player like the role of our striker is involved in 60% of passing sequences in the final third. That means that there's a 50%*60% =30% reduction in terms of creativity for the whole team going from Jesus to Eddie. I know its a naïve way at looking at stats but I just wanted to emphasise how much the absence of an adequate backup can affect the team.

City have both Halaand and Alvarez, Liverpool have so many good attackers in their side. We had Henry Adebayor and Van persie at some point, and when Henry left we got Eduardo. Its baffling how some think its acceptable that a backup (literally the only other striker in the squad) can be levels behind Jesus (who isnt a world class striker to begin with). Even a midget midfielder playing out of position in Trossard is showing him levels.

Having said that, Eddie is a hard worker and its not his fault he doesn't have the talent required at PL level, its on Arteta that he kept giving minutes instead of prioritising a striker signing or even preferring Trossard and Havertz ahead of him much earlier than he did in the season.

 

[drippin]

Having said that, Eddie is a hard worker and its not his fault he doesn't have the talent required at PL level, its on Arteta that he kept giving minutes instead of prioritising a striker signing or even preferring Trossard and Havertz ahead of him much earlier than he did in the season.

Otherwise good post, but a couple things I have to mention.

Nketiah is at EPL level, just not top 6 level or so. Under Arteta since 20/21 season in EPL, he has 16+8 in 3350 minutes, which means a point per 140 minutes. Which is very good for a young striker. Someone will absolutely take a punt with him from EPL teams. He will also be better in a team that doesn't dominate as much.

Havertz was needed in midfield because of injuries and niggles to Partey and Jorginho. Managers also don't just bench players, there is a process, where the new player has to earn his chance and takeover. This is important so players believe there is even playground and so there is no unnecessary conflict in the squad that arises, because of it.

Havertz took his chances and has proven he is the best false 9 in the squad currently. And he has the pedigree from his career also over Nketiah, so Nketiah can't complain at all on how it happened.

 

[PrinzPoldi]

You're fine with having a backup striker not being able to impact games, have a bad first touch, only foul opposition players whenever he comes on, while collecting 100k/week? Where's your standards?

for tactical reason, it is difficult for him to just come from the bench and then "perform".

as some said here, nowadays he only play when the game is "done", which means we already pulling our handbrakes, taking starters off and not interested in scoring more.
Our defense won't push up, and we will mainly keep possession of the ball.

we put him in just to keep the formation and need a striker there; and his teammates at that moment mostly are just subs and not like Saka/Martinelli doing their best.

 

[TH14shahriar]

for tactical reason, it is difficult for him to just come from the bench and then "perform".

as some said here, nowadays he only play when the game is "done", which means we already pulling our handbrakes, taking starters off and not interested in scoring more.
Our defense won't push up, and we will mainly keep possession of the ball.

we put him in just to keep the formation and need a striker there; and his teammates at that moment mostly are just subs and not like Saka/Martinelli doing their best.

Alright, this happened recently you know, after Dubai, before he's started crucial games in absence of Jesus. But alright, thats his role then nowadays, we can agree on that. Do you still think we should be paying 100k/week for him to come run around when we try hold possession? A job btw I don't even think he's good at, the only thing he does is running into people, making stupid fouls.

 

[PrinzPoldi]

Alright, this happened recently you know, after Dubai, before he's started crucial games in absence of Jesus. But alright, thats his role then nowadays, we can agree on that. Do you still think we should be paying 100k/week for him to come run around when we try hold possession? A job btw I don't even think he's good at, the only thing he does is running into people, making stupid fouls.

in the end, it all depends on how Arteta sees Eddie and how he rotates the player.

Eddie is not that bad, but we are just not playing into his strengths.
He does not have the qualities (as of now) to play like Jesus, Trossard, nor Kai.

 

[Blankety Blank]

Will be interesting to see what happens in the summer.
He has improved his all-round game but it's not as drippin says top 6 level. it's likely as said he may do better in a team that doesn't dominate the ball as much.
However with the shortage in the striker market and lack of natural standout 1st choice options finding reliable players who are ok in rotation may not be easy.
An issue with Eddie in this role is he hasn't got a great record of scoring from the bench as an impact sub.

 

[Riou]

He's a good poacher and a good presser, think he will do very well for most "non European level" Prem teams...he would have cooked for Palace when Paddy wanted him with the likes of Zaha and Eze there.

Feel we will still get a good fee for him in the summer, good player just not for our level.

 

[drippin]

However with the shortage in the striker market and lack of natural standout 1st choice options finding reliable players who are ok in rotation may not be easy.

Pretty sure players like Toney and Gyokeres are fine to come and try to take the starting striker role from Havertz/Jesus. And Sesko or Zirkzee.

They will get a raise and a lot of minutes challenging for trophies.

An issue with Eddie in this role is he hasn't got a great record of scoring from the bench as an impact sub.

Someone said it, but Nketiah often plays without a few of the starting players. But of course he also plays against tired opposition.

As an example Bowen this season while playing more as CF, has a point per 137 minutes in EPL. Since 20/21 Nketiah has a point per 140 minutes in EPL.

Nketiah will fetch a nice sum of money and he was already upgraded with Havertz.