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EPL I Liverpool vs Arsenal I March 4 17.30 GMT | BT Sport 1

Discussion in 'Match Day Archive' started by ggunner12345, Feb 26, 2017.

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What will the result be for this match?

Poll closed Mar 3, 2017.
  1. Liverpool win

    49.0%
  2. Arsenal win

    29.4%
  3. Draw

    21.6%
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  1. rich 1990

    rich 1990 Not A Big Believer In Diversity

    Nonsensical, scrambled thinking.
     
  2. American_Gooner

    American_Gooner Not actually American. Unless Di Marzio says so. Moderator

    Only West Ham was in the last 10 minutes but he's been a part of some comebacks:


     
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  3. Aevi

    Aevi Hale End FC Moderator

    Wow, Bellerin found a player with a cross!
     
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  4. Batman

    Batman Bruce Wayne

    That's what happens when your ownership group is from Boston. Foul place. The Tottenham of America really.
    I'll agree he got the most out of Sterling. But Suarez has scored everywhere and continues to be an absolute monster under a binman of a manager and Sturridge scores when fit for club and for country. He only played like 13games in Rodgers' first season with the club if I'm not mistaken and he put up 10 goals or somewhere thereabouts. What Rodgers god out of him which was more by luck than anything else was 29 appearances. All I'm saying is that it's unfair for people to say "Oh look at Klopp he's got an identical record to Rodgers' as a means of slating him while ignoring that Rodgers achieved that record with much better players. I don't even think Rodgers is a bad manager, I just really don't understand how anyone is calling time on Klopp with one summer transfer window in his pocket. By the way I agree 10000% percent with you about Wenger not getting the most out of the players and Ferguson getting the most out of players. I just think that Klopp is getting a raw deal here because it's the media cycle at a big club.
     
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  5. hydrofluoric acid

    hydrofluoric acid Dishonest To His Federation

    Wenger makes less sense than Donald Trump these days...
     
  6. Penn_

    Penn_ Established Member

    Would have thought that after what's coming out about Alexis that the team would have wanted to show that they can compete without him. But they looked as lost as ever.
     
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  7. Preacher

    Preacher Always Crying

    Bellerin:
    “We’re very frustrated with how the game went,” he told the club’s official website. “After the tough weeks we’ve had, the team should have gone onto the pitch, motivated and ready from the start.

    “In the first half it didn’t feel like we were ready and then we went 2-0 down. We wanted to do everything. We got one goal back and had a chance to make it 2-2, but sometimes it’s too late. We just need to start the games better.
    “We need to realise that it’s just not the way to go. We need to push harder, to start the games with a better attitude and just go for it because we showed that when we go for it and want something, we can do it.

    “It doesn’t matter about the other team, when we have the ball and push hard, we can score goals. It’s up to us to start the games with that desire, that motivation, and then we can get good results.”

    I don't even know what to say anymore.
     
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  8. Aevi

    Aevi Hale End FC Moderator

    Looks like Wenger wrote that speech and had Bellerin read it.
     
  9. say yes

    say yes To Sweet Soulful Vinai

    I don't think you can blame the players any more, this is clearly an issue from up top.
     
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  10. Hyruga

    Hyruga Active Member

    I mentioned last 3 years last 15 min. The west ham one happened in dec 2013.

    Even if by any chance you can find one, it still tells us that Walcott is very helpless against a packed defence in the last 15 mins because he hasn't been scoring for the past three years last 15 mins when Arsenal is chasing a game.
     
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  11. mm76

    mm76 Yer Da

    only just had the chance to log in to AM since the match, as was away.

    not sure what all this talk about Walcott is about, the biggest cockup was leaving Sanchez on the bench.

    That's it now, Wenger immediately has to say he will go at the end of the season ~(if not before)

    his decisions are so nonsensical and insane, I fully expect him to start with Ospina up front on Tuesday

    i almost wonder if he secretly supports Tottenshite now, and is pursuing a 'scorched earth' policy to destroy this club before he leaves.
     
  12. krengon

    krengon One Arsene Wenger Trusted



    Just look at Iwobi's "effort" in defending there.. Pathetic.
     
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  13. Garrincha

    Garrincha Wilf Zaha Aficionado

    Its hard to criticise without knowing what Iwobis instructions were. On that occasion we have 7 vs 4 in the box & there is a Liverpool man free coming from deep.
     
  14. Mike Vinna

    Mike Vinna Active Member

    Well.. I didnt watch this because I saw the line-up. How in the hell does that deluded old man dare to bench Alexis. And then play Giroud. Dear God that old git is so done at Arsenal. Instead of the two cups being a stepping stone to bigger things, they were actually lucky wins and we should cherish them because no silverware will be headed our way when our star players leave us yet again in the summer..
     
  15. Preacher

    Preacher Always Crying

    A breakdown of the events leading to Liverpool's first goal versus Arsenal: how laziness and stupidity cost them in the 9th minute:
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    The ball comes into the Arsenal half via a goal-kick. Arsenal's three midfielders of 17-Iwobi, 34-Coquelin and 29-Xhaka make no attempt for the ball (perhaps understandable). 6-Koscielny, questionably, comes out of position to challenge 11-Firmino for the ball, thus creating space for Liverpool's Coutinho and Lallana. Mustafi is out of position when he should be picking up Coutinho
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    Koscielny loses the aerial challenge and the ball is knocked into the space created. Mustafi is still nowhere in picture as Coutinho has time to pick up Lallana who is has plent of space and time to pick a pass. Pay attention to the responses of the Arsenal's mid-three (especially, 17-Iwobi)[​IMG]
    Liverpool have effected a 3v3; not an immediate threat to Arsenal's goal (yet). Four Arsenal players are caught out of position. 10-Coutinho cuts in as 20-Mustafi rushes out to challenge Lallana. Monreal tucks in thus vacating space for Mane.
    Firmino astutely sensing the possibility of an overload begins his run to the Arsenal's right. Notice the gap between 17-Iwobi and 11-Firmino. All Iwobi has to do is to sense the danger and pick-up Firmino.
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    Lallana sends the ball wide to Mane and Mustafi is taken out of position. At this point it is still salvageable for Arsenal if Mustafi and any one of Koscienly and Coquelin make up the ground. 11-Firmino continues with his run as Lallana joins Coutino. Iwobi still doesn't pick Firmino's run and the gap widens.
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    it becomes a 4v4 as Koscienly and Mustafi make up the ground. At this stage Bellerin is on the wrong side of Coutinho and Coquelin has not picked up Lallana. Iwobi continues to ball watch as Firmino has created an overload on Arsenal's right.
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    Notice the gaps and how Bellerin is on the wrong side of Coutinho
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    Mane sends a wonderful across and Coutinho misses. Arsenal survive only for it to fall for an unmarked Firmino (who clearly gives a **** even in the 9th minute of the game, unlike Arsenal's midfielders)
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    There is still a chance that one of Bellerin or Cech could block Firmino's shot. 20-Lallana is a perfect position to take advantage of such an instance, while Coquelin has given up already. Iwobi has clearly done so much earlier.
    [​IMG]
    Liverpool are rightly rewarded for their energy and intelligence and Arsenal punished for their laziness and stupidity.
     
  16. mm76

    mm76 Yer Da

    ha, quite....
     
  17. Preacher

    Preacher Always Crying

    Repeat offenders should be benched, but Wenger usually gives them free pass. How many times already this season Iwobi was lazy while defending ?
     
  18. mm76

    mm76 Yer Da

    but isn't it depressing that we end up criticising people like Iwobi who only a little while ago was a real bright hope? Wenger is just allowing decay and disorganisation to spread and the team is literally falling apart - it all points one way and that's to him - he just has to say he's going - as soon as possible...
     
  19. bingobob

    bingobob Fan of Technicians Who Show Great Character

    That isn't a scenario that you can pre plan for. What happens when Koscielny fails to win a header and if X y and z happen.

    What you can pre plan for is a catch all scenario. If we are caught out get back as quickly as possible. Get goal side of a man who looks to be in immediate danger. Talk. If two people goto the same man say to your team mate I've got him look for someone else. If there is nobody else mark dangerous space.

    There is zero communication. None from the defence to create urgency from the midfield and none from the midfield to say we are struggling (can't be arsed) to get back. If there were Coquelin sprints back and helps his defence considering Koscielny is way out of position. Iwobi then can linger at the edge of the box potentially marking Lallana or the on coming player who is a good 10 yards from the box.

    In the end there is no desire. No understanding that hey this is dangerous. They are breaking three on three and our best defender just got done by a Brazilian in the air and is completely out of the game and we are so out of shape it's ridiculous. Get back.

    Its just awful awareness and understanding of the game.
     
  20. arsmile

    arsmile Well-Known Member


    Do we have 11 non repeat offenders?
     
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