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Granit Xhaka: Swiss Army Knife or Blunt Tool?

Will Xhaka be here after the summer window?

  • Yes

    Votes: 38 55.1%
  • No

    Votes: 31 44.9%

  • Total voters
    69
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Riou

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Player:Gabriel
Xhaka may have as many assists as Rosicky...but does Granit also have his great taste in music?

He's been really good , tbf...maybe he was the one carrying Partey all along :eek:
 

Mrs Bergkamp

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Are you missing the part where Xhaka is a DM/DLP and his numbers are comparable with #8’s and #10’s who are far more responsible for providing assists... on purpose?
Nope. As for this DLP stuff, Luiz and Gabriel did a fair bit of that for him. He's not some metronome through which all our play goes and who starts all our attacks. The DLP role is is a shared one. Nobody can say anything that's not one hundred percent praise for Xhaka can they? Keep up the boring work. Hope he's sold in the summer.
 

simba

Manberg Again
Nope. As for this DLP stuff, Luiz and Gabriel did a fair bit of that for him. He's not some metronome through which all our play goes and who starts all our attacks. The DLP role is is a shared one. Nobody can say anything that's not one hundred percent praise for Xhaka can they? Keep up the boring work. Hope he's sold in the summer.

What’re you on about? He’s literally our deepest midfielder. He is even filling in at CB or LB half the time.
 
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Blood on the Tracks

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Thought he did fairly well today, particularly in the first half. Spent most of the second half throwing himself on the floor, fair enough, it worked buying freekicks today.

Arteta seems to be able to get more out of him than most. I still have strong reservations about Xhaka though.

As a squad player I could live with him if I had too next season, I guess. By no means should he be a guaranteed starter when fit though. Too flawed. Upgrade needed.
 

Mrs Bergkamp

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What’re you on about? He’s literally our deepest midfielder. He is even filling in at CB half the time.
He's often our deepest midfielder indeed. But did you see Luiz take the ball and play all the way in to the Leeds box? Did you see Gabriel get forward? Did you see Ceballos driving forward,? Quite a lot of that play involved Xhaka standing a filling a gap-which is tactically on point. He's no Xavi. Hiding at the back whilst Luiz plays out might make him the deepest midfielder but not one that's actually playing in the role you're trying to con me into imagining. No need to explain any further as I know what your on about. Are you Manberg or another Xhaka cultist?
 

Blood on the Tracks

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He was class yet again. He has this prime intelligence to get in between the player and the ball in order to draw fouls. Always comes in moments the other team is eager to make things happen and it has a big calming effect on our game. Xhaka is a master. Walks into any team in the league aside from City. Also has the intelligence and ability to drive into or find players in space, no matter where they are on the pitch. These things are under-appreciated by premier league fans, but would get a lot more attention and appreciation in Spain or Italy.

He had a fairly decent game today. How you can wax lyrical about him like this for putting in a pretty par performance is beyond me :lol:
 

Macho

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Thought he did fairly well today, particularly in the first half. Spent most of the second half throwing himself on the floor, fair enough, it worked buying freekicks today.

Arteta seems to be able to get more out of him than most. I still have strong reservations about Xhaka though.

As a squad player I could live with him if I had too next season, I guess. By no means should he be a guaranteed starter when fit though. Too flawed. Upgrade needed.
Maybe as a former midfielder himself Arteta just knows how to improve him? I agree with that though.

I think Xhaka is a capable player who would work if the conditions were right which is a sore point for some.

He's been here long enough though and he hasn't been that guy for us, so for that reason alone he should be moved on or an upgrade should be attempted for sure.
 

Oh_Snap

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He's been here long enough though and he hasn't been that guy for us, so for that reason alone he should be moved on or an upgrade should be attempted for sure.
Could also argue now that he finally works out it'd be stupid to sell? THIS Xhaka i'd like to gamble on tbh.
 

simba

Manberg Again
He's often our deepest midfielder indeed. But did you see Luiz take the ball and play all the way in to the Leeds box? Did you see Gabriel get forward? Did you see Ceballos driving forward,? Quite a lot of that play involved Xhaka standing a filling a gap-which is tactically on point. He's no Xavi. Hiding at the back whilst Luiz plays out might make him the deepest midfielder but not one that's actually playing in the role you're trying to con me into imagining. No need to explain any further as I know what your on about. Are you Manberg or another Xhaka cultist?

Xhaka plays those long balls at times too. Luiz may do it more often because he’s capable and he has more space. Xhaka is also a specialist at switching the ball to the opposite flank if one is overloaded, a key part of tactics. And he covers for the overloading left back. That’s not hiding at the back that’s him doing his tactical job. When it was a back 3 he dropped to centreback. Again, a tactical instruction. For Xhaka to be getting as many assists as he is is incredible considering his role. Assists aren’t a key part of his role.

What’s your point about not being Xavi? I don’t get it. Besides, if you call Xhaka a sideways passer what do you call Xavi? Xavi was notorious for sideways passing. Xhaka actually does a lot more passes forwards as a percentage of overall passes than Xavi. I’m not saying sideways passing is bad but it goes to show the double standards that the agenda merchants have. “Xhaka not on the level of Xavi all Xhaka does is pass sideways and backwards” :lol: :lol: It’s hilarious. The term sideways passing merchant (or something similar) was literally coined after Xavi.
 

2Smokeyy

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Xhaka haters in the mud recently.
 

Macho

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Could also argue now that he finally works out it'd be stupid to sell? THIS Xhaka i'd like to gamble on tbh.
I am a big advocate of the players we have. Whilst I want to buy into this version of Xhaka, he's burnt me one too many times to stick my neck out for him all the way unfortunately.

I see what he does well and why coaches persist, but his deficiencies are glaring.

I just take it each game with him and call it like I see it. My gut says cash in and upgrade.
 

Blood on the Tracks

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Maybe as a former midfielder himself Arteta just knows how to improve him? I agree with that though.

I think Xhaka is a capable player who would work if the conditions were right which is a sore point for some.

He's been here long enough though and he hasn't been that guy for us, so for that reason alone he should be moved on or an upgrade should be attempted for sure.

I think you're probably right on the Arteta thing. It makes sense.

My issue is you've got to build around Xhaka if you want to get the best out of him and for me he isn't the calibre of player or consistent enough to do that for.

Fair play to him though. Since boxing day he hasn't really had a poor game. Let's hope he can keep it up until the end of the season. I don't think Arteta's going to move him on anyway, not this summer at least.
 

Oh_Snap

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I just take it each game with him and call it like I see it. My gut says cash in and upgrade.
Fair enough, I'm certainly not a fan of his. But if he can maintain his recent form and his partnership with partey works out like it promises to a lot of good work would go down the drain if we sell. gonna eat my words the next blunder he does ofc.
 

Taylor Gang Gunners

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He's often our deepest midfielder indeed. But did you see Luiz take the ball and play all the way in to the Leeds box? Did you see Gabriel get forward? Did you see Ceballos driving forward,? Quite a lot of that play involved Xhaka standing a filling a gap-which is tactically on point. He's no Xavi. Hiding at the back whilst Luiz plays out might make him the deepest midfielder but not one that's actually playing in the role you're trying to con me into imagining. No need to explain any further as I know what your on about. Are you Manberg or another Xhaka cultist?

Hiding at the back? Seriously?

Xhaka does an important job for this team and he’s excellent at it. Everything you mentioned from our CBs doesn’t takeaway from Xhaka’s performance. He’s no Xavi, of course not, few players are- but he’s a quality player and has proved such on several occasions.
 

Mrs Bergkamp

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Hiding at the back? Seriously?

Xhaka does an important job for this team and he’s excellent at it. Everything you mentioned from our CBs doesn’t takeaway from Xhaka’s performance. He’s no Xavi, of course not, few players are- but he’s a quality player and has proved such on several occasions.
Hiding was a bit strong. How about standing tactically in position whist a CB does the actually play making from our box. Simba was making it sound like he does all the play making alone. The improved job he's done over the last couple of months don't mask his flaws either. Every player gets criticised. It's the "ban" on having anything but a loved up opinion on this guy that gets me.
 

Mrs Bergkamp

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Xhaka plays those long balls at times too. Luiz may do it more often because he’s capable and he has more space. Xhaka is also a specialist at switching the ball to the opposite flank if one is overloaded, a key part of tactics. And he covers for the overloading left back. That’s not hiding at the back that’s him doing his tactical job. When it was a back 3 he dropped to centreback. Again, a tactical instruction. For Xhaka to be getting as many assists as he is is incredible considering his role. Assists aren’t a key part of his role.

What’s your point about not being Xavi? I don’t get it. Besides, if you call Xhaka a sideways passer what do you call Xavi? Xavi was notorious for sideways passing. Xhaka actually does a lot more passes forwards as a percentage of overall passes than Xavi. I’m not saying sideways passing is bad but it goes to show the double standards that the agenda merchants have. “Xhaka not on the level of Xavi all Xhaka does is pass sideways and backwards” :lol: :lol: It’s hilarious. The term sideways passing merchant (or something similar) was literally coined after Xavi.
If you're Manberg, I think you said, in another incarnation, that you need a high iq to appreciate Xhaka. You're obviously too clever to get any point I make. For clarity, the Xavi mention was to illustrate a player through whom most of the game passes. That's not Xhaka. He is not setting up the majority of our plays from deep. This is shared and this DLP stuff always comes up to disguise any stats his followers don't like. I'll continue to believe what I want but thanks for the insight.
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