Mesut Özil: Time to Move Ön?

[Toby]

Has a player at Arsenal ever divided opinion so much as Özil has?

Going by the player threads on here: Anyone.

 

[Godwin1]

Going by the player threads on here: Anyone.

I'm clearly not thinking straight, Xhaka and Ramsey threads being obvious examples.

 

[DanDare]

Wait did people actually believe the bust-up rumours? It seemed like it was obvious tabloid nonsense. It's honestly scary how people just believe any old rubbish as long as it's written down.

How do you think Brexit happened?

 

[DanDare]

I think people need to think about wages in a more sophisticated way.

People just think of the wages an amount of money but in reality the club calculates the wages they’re willing to give on more than just the quality of the player. Özil has international marketability beyond just being good.

His wage is off set by money he brings in for the club. Torreira could win ballon d’or and he still wouldn’t earn what Özil will. He’s just not marketable and doesn’t have Ozils story (gained massive popularity at Real Madrid)

 

[Slartibartfast]

As for the Fenerbache links there are plenty, so your claim that this has not been a story is just false.

I didn't claim it hasn't been a story. I said that as far as I know Özil has never expressed such a desire. I've only heard him talk about going back to Schalke someday. Big difference between paper talk and the player actually saying something. Paper talk is most likely an assumption that because he's of Turkish ancestry he must want to go play there. And that's what I'm talking about.

 

[Slartibartfast]

I think people need to think about wages in a more sophisticated way.

People just think of the wages an amount of money but in reality the club calculates the wages they’re willing to give on more than just the quality of the player. Özil has international marketability beyond just being good.

His wage is off set by money he brings in for the club. Torreira could win ballon d’or and he still wouldn’t earn what Özil will. He’s just not marketable and doesn’t have Ozils story (gained massive popularity at Real Madrid)

James Olley reported recently that Arsenal told Ramsey there is no way he will get anything close to Özil's wages because he doesn't carry the same worldwide commercial clout. Whether or not this (i.e., Arsenal telling Ramsey that) is true or not, I don't know. But it is true that Özil's commercial value is enormous.

 

[celestis]

I didn't claim it hasn't been a story. I said that as far as I know Özil has never expressed such a desire. I've only heard him talk about going back to Schalke someday. Big difference between paper talk and the player actually saying something. Paper talk is most likely an assumption that because he's of Turkish ancestry he must want to go play there. And that's what I'm talking about.

He did mention he wanted to play for Fener at some stage to a Turkish newspaper about 2 years ago as he was a supporter as a boy . Obviously was never really going to happen.

 

[Slartibartfast]

He did mention he wanted to play for Fener at some stage to a Turkish newspaper about 2 years ago as he was a supporter as a boy . Obviously was never really going to happen.

I stand corrected then. I searched and couldn't find where he had actually said that himself, but apparently missed it. But as you say, it would quite obviously never happen. He might have just been being polite when somebody asked him about the (impossible) possibility. But the idea of him moving there from Arsenal and them taking on his contract is beyond ludicrous. Hell, Schalke couldn't afford him right now. His wages could almost pay their whole starting XI. Bayern doesn't even pay wages like Özil's.

 

[celestis]

I stand corrected then. I searched and couldn't find where he had actually said that himself, but apparently missed it. But as you say, it would quite obviously never happen. He might have just been being polite when somebody asked him about the (impossible) possibility. But the idea of him moving there from Arsenal and them taking on his contract is beyond ludicrous. Hell, Schalke couldn't afford him right now. His wages could almost pay their whole starting XI. Bayern doesn't even pay wages like Özil's.

As you say he was trying to be polite . Think he feels an obligation to show hes not forgotten his roots as a lot of immigrants feel.

 

[celestis]

James Olley reported recently that Arsenal told Ramsey there is no way he will get anything close to Özil's wages because he doesn't carry the same worldwide commercial clout. Whether or not this (i.e., Arsenal telling Ramsey that) is true or not, I don't know. But it is true that Özil's commercial value is enormous.

Never realised how ernormous Ozils commercial clout. Amazing.

 

[razörist]

Still the same talk about Özil needing to go and play in Turkey? You guys are despicable.

 

[vijay]

oh ****...another season..another decision.

now i gotta decide if I am Özil FC or Arsenal FC

 

[Nicenho]

oh ****...another season..another decision.

now i gotta decide if I am Özil FC or Arsenal FC

Can’t do both? Been easy for me since he came.

 

[Fewtch]

0.54 A/G per game
By far our best player. So happy that he signed

 

[Mark Tobias]

0.54 A/G per game
By far our best player. So happy that he signed

Still if you break that down over the seasons he's been here you find he's under performed in a couple. That's why I'm upset with mesut of late... we know he's capable.. it will come right

 

[vijay]

Can’t do both? Been easy for me since he came.

Make Arsenal Great Again

 

[krackpot]

Very poor in the first half.

 

[Arsenio Venger]

Very poor in the first half.

Not really, but great in the second half

It’s funny. His play directly led to the second goal and this is what you focus on. Our offense went into a second gear with him at the helm and then you focus on the first half. Hmm why?

 

[krackpot]

Not really, but great in the second half

he didnt get the ball. The others were seemingly under instructions not to pass to him.

still needs to improve a lot.

 

[Arsenio Venger]

he didnt get the ball. The others were seemingly under instructions not to pass to him.

still needs to improve a lot.

Then when he got the ball what happened

You’re blind