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Just seen this on twitter, all competitions. thoughts?
Just seen this on twitter, all competitions. thoughts?
Grass always greener on other side
Silva ain’t **** and he chokes on the national team all the time
Men lie, women lie...Just seen this on twitter, all competitions. thoughts?
The point of those stats is that Özil is a #10 who should be judged on his end product. That's the sort of player he's been since he moved to Real, when Mourinho turned him into a final third metronome. I wouldn't compare him to Xavi or Iniesta because we don't judge a 6 or 8 by the same metric.
And during that run last season, he was scoring or assisting in a lot of those games. Wouldn't call that his best form either, his 15/16 performance was one of the best creative seasons the PL has seen.
That's not what I said. He should be making the difference in big games, but if he ends up not doing so it doesn't necessarily mean he was **** or went missing. I said you can't expect him to single-handedly drag a team back the way somelike Vieira would, his job is to be decisive in the final third. If he doesn't do that, then by all means criticise him. Also I wouldn't have paid him £350,000 a week either.
I expect him to create for the team and score/assist when the team is dominating the game. If we have 65% possession and he doesn't create, I'd be disappointed with that output considering how much of the ball he would presumably see. In a game like Man City last week or the two consecutive games against them last season, I don't expect much from him or any creative player because you just don't see the ball against teams like that.
Against Chelsea in the league he played deeper and was brilliant, I wish Wenger had tried that more often to help him get involved in these kinds of games. Once it became apparent Özil was having trouble influencing some of these games I feel Wenger could have implemented more tactical tweaks like that to help him.
I'm talking about the big games, there were plenty of matches against the likes of United and Chelsea where he was helpless because the team around him collapsed. He couldn't pull the team up by himself against the top 2 teams and it would've been unreasonable to expect that.
Just seen this on twitter, all competitions. thoughts?
Grass always greener on other side
Silva ain’t **** and he chokes on the national team all the time
Not even Messi and Ronaldo perform week in week out, don't be silly. They're only human, after all.I was talking about both. Özil is paid top dollar week in week out, so I'd expect him to perform week in week out.
All I see somewhat pointless "all comps" stats which show Özil's numbers being propped up while playing in a two team league, while playing in a mainly facilitator role, with a absolute end product machine/one of the best player of all time in prime Ronaldo (whose production didnt trail off once Özil left Madrid).
Either that graphic should make you think of the context of stats painting Özil as the "best #10 in the world" by Opta or whatnot as Ronaldo was a monster before and after Özil in terms of production (and the team was more successful once Özil was moved on) or you should expect more from Özil while hes been at AFC as hes not been as good as he was in the past and hes now in what should be his prime.
Yupp and Silva played with bunch of losers at City. I mean that Aguero? Nobody.
Great post!
There has been games he has been poor( bad touches, poor passing, easily dispossessed etc), but there has also been games where we haven't managed to get him involved or put him in a position to succeed and that's down to team failure(and then you can start talking about tactics and if he should have a different role etc).
If you look back at our best big game performances the last few years, Özil was pulling the strings in most/all of them.
you just wanted to find out if they read your posts, rite?What I will say.. and this applies in all the threads we have massive fanboys.. is that the true greats of this game are seldom questioned. Henry, Pele, Maradona, Zidane, Makelele, Lampard. To name just a few. How many people debate their greatness and influence on the game... Hard to picture having a thread like this (or xhaka's/ramsey's) for any of those names.
Yup, you and AG passed the rest of you failed miserably and I am highly disappointedyou just wanted to find out if they read your posts, rite?
Lampard is a PL great, but not a legend.
The point of those stats is that Özil is a #10 who should be judged on his end product. That's the sort of player he's been since he moved to Real, when Mourinho turned him into a final third metronome. I wouldn't compare him to Xavi or Iniesta because we don't judge a 6 or 8 by the same metric.
Yup he spent most of the World Cup posting things about how crap Messi is. Was a bit obsessive actually.I was merely pointing out that Ronaldo is one of the best to ever do it, something that you subscribe to if I'm not mistaken, so putting up godly number while playing with a football god is hardly surprising if your job is being a supplier.
Thirdly he often comes deep to get the ball anyway which throws out the formation and leaves us one short in the attacking third, if we factor it into the formation then we can have the wide players higher up as forwards rather than midfielders.
He is forced to drop deep because when we have the ball, Ramsey goes near our attacking line eating all the space from Mesut forcing him wider or deeper. And also he has to drop deep because our defenders and midfield players can't get the ball to him higher up the pitch. This is what Cazorla did brilliantly.
I watched Santi play against Real Sociedad and Werder Bremen and I think we should have kept him. His technique, vision and passing range is something we really miss.
I don't personally care at all how much a player earn as long as they improve Arsenal. And Mesut Özil 100% helps Arsenal win games. Maybe he shouldn't start against bigger teams when he doesn't get the ball and the support enough to be productive. But against lesser teams watch him create chance after chance.
Im shaken and stirred. I could read all of it. You went in and off. Lool.All I see somewhat pointless "all comps" stats which show Özil's numbers being propped up while playing in a two team league, while playing in a mainly facilitator role, with a absolute end product machine/one of the best player of all time in prime Ronaldo (whose production didnt trail off once Özil left Madrid).
Either that graphic should make you think of the context of stats painting Özil as the "best #10 in the world" by Opta or whatnot as Ronaldo was a monster before and after Özil in terms of production (and the team was more successful once Özil was moved on) or you should expect more from Özil while hes been at AFC as hes not been as good as he was in the past and hes now in what should be his prime.