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That is true, apparantly had a clause in his contract that he could go back being a physio again too!He did appoint Don Howe to help him tactically. Haven't really heard of Arteta's helpers before..
That is true, apparantly had a clause in his contract that he could go back being a physio again too!He did appoint Don Howe to help him tactically. Haven't really heard of Arteta's helpers before..
Haven't really heard of Arteta's helpers before..
I don't see the logic of that bro. If the average squad investment has doubled and average player prices has doubled in the last 5 years. It should make lower teams easier to beat. And the recent breaking records of 21 unbeaten wins for City and two years of title winners getting 99 points and 98 points seems to show that's true.
Quickly because I hate to leave you waiting:
Didn’t have nothing to say about my other post? Another L for you.
You'd think this will be even more visible in the coming season. Many clubs struggle to make ends meet, while a few clubs with owners that pour money into the clubs will be able to capitalize on that.I think you're both right in a way. "Smaller" clubs can buy more expensive players which basically should give them more quality. But football has develop to make it more organized and rigid even down to small clubs. Just have a look at the ECs and WCs and small nations making the group stages via organized defending and getting draws. To beat that you need even better quality which is so expensive, only the big money clubs can get that. Explains why there's the notion of smaller clubs having better squads and being harder to beat while clubs which spent the most (on the absolute top of the crop of the football world) still "walk" leagues.
Money + tactics has toughened the league but mega money has in turn made it easier for those who have that sort of super money.
Yes, I read that too. Shows the modesty of the man. Brought through Charlie George and other young players too and laid a foundation that would last 25 years on terms of future managers and giving youth a chance.That is true, apparantly had a clause in his contract that he could go back being a physio again too!
How? They're spending more and signing more expensive players themselves.
That's what Abramovich tried to go for after a few silent seasons but thankfully most of their signings flopped thus farYou'd think this will be even more visible in the coming season. Many clubs struggle to make ends meet, while a few clubs with owners that pour money into the clubs will be able to capitalize on that.
Yep exactly. It's why this conversation is so inane. The value of each £ decreases as you add them up.There's a ceiling to how much talent any club can have in real terms. Man City are always close to that ceiling. They have a WC squad. It's hard to improve on, beyond small margins.
Doubling their expenditure isn't going to improve them anywhere near as much as would happen with a West Ham / Aston Villa etc who are much further away from that ceiling and with much more room for growth.
You're probably right. Nothing playing career and an early intro into coaching at average teams apart from Utd. Bit of a grey man for me but lots of assistant experience which is niceSteve Round deserves more respect than this...I think.
Marginal returns/utility is a tough concept to internalize for a surprisingly large portion of the publicYep exactly. It's why this conversation is so inane. The value of each £ decreases as you add them up.
They both look the same on a spreadsheet (+£20m), but:
- The average difference between a £60m player and an £80m player is negligible.
- The average difference between a free player and a £20m player is massive.
Simply put, having an extra £100m to spend will improve a club like Burnley much more than it will a club like Man City. It's why the league is becoming tougher as the smaller clubs get richer - even if the big clubs get richer too. They've just got much greater room to grow.
What does that have to do with clubs lower down the league spending more?We’ve spent a record breaking amount over the 3 years and it’s been mostly poorly spent and managed. We’re midtable because of mismanagement. We finished 5th and reached a European final with mainly a Wenger team.
- Disagree that the league is weaker, it's stronger now than I've ever seen it and getting stronger still each season. Money talks. Big 4 is now clearly a big 6, or even a big 7 with Leicester. Clubs like Everton and Villa spending heavily, Wolves with their connections etc. Simply put the PL's got a middle-order even your boys Axar and Ashwin would struggle with.
That's what Abramovich tried to go for after a few silent seasons but thankfully most of their signings flopped thus far
Don't know why people think that 2010-2017 period was a good moment for English football. Awful record in Europe, Fergie coasting to titles with his worst ever teams before he retired, Sp**s getting close to the title multiple times, Leicester actually winning a title. The quality of the league was piss-poor compared to the naughties and what we're seeing now.Almost like people are willingly ignoring that the Champions have lost 6 home games in a row now. That doesn't happen unless there is a lot of quality in the league.
Aren’t you saying they are spending more so the league is more competitive? Everybody is spending more. Our net spend is one of the highest in Europe since Wenger left.What does that have to do with clubs lower down the league spending more?
Congrats on the cricket btw. Thought you guys were very impressive.
Almost like people are willingly ignoring that the Champions have lost 6 home games in a row now. That doesn't happen unless there is a lot of quality in the league.