Mikel Arteta: Aston La Vista To The Title?

[DanDare]

- Saliba alienated
- Pepe dropped when in form
- Overplaying Saka
- Played Partey not fit and he got injured again
- Desperately plays Tierney vs City risking injury
- Not dropping Bellerin
- Nelson?
- Willian

 

[Tree Points]

I agree with you on Arteta but this is laughable on Ole. You say winning a cup is not progress but bringing on young players who have not improved the team at all is progress?

Winning mentality? How? He had 13 opportunities to win a trophy since he got there, won 0. Lost 4 SFs in a row. Eliminated in CL GS. Qualified for CL last season only bc Chelsea and Leicester bottled their lead. 66pts is the lowest pt total in years for a CL finish.

He replaced Jose who got 82 pts in his last full season. To get there Ole would have to win 12 and draw 1 of the last 13 games of the season. He didn't improve United, others got worse. And he got as many penalties as Jose, LVG and Moyes TOGETHER in triple time less.

He also helped the Glazers reduce the wage bill to a laughable amount, resulting in your longest run without a trophy in over 30 years. He's a Glazer in all but name.

If Jose had stayed up until now and literally copy-paste everything Ole has done to Jose the reaction would not be this. Any other established manager in the world doing this would not be looked at favorably at all.

Jose sucked the joy out of watching Utd. He caused in-fighting and constantly blamed everyone publically.

Ole, for all of his faults, has created a really good atmosphere around the club again. Yes he’s a Glazer yes man. Like Arteta, he knows he won’t get a job at a big club like this again so he’s making the most of it right now. But we’re in a far better state than we were a few years ago under Jose. And remember, I don’t think Ole is the right man - but he’s been good for us after the hell which was Jose.

And no winning the FA Cup isn’t progress. It’s a nice day out, sure. But we won it under Van Gaal and we were going nowhere as a team. Martinez won it with Wigan and where are they now. Arry won it with Portsmouth, where are they now?

You can see teams like Leicester, Utd, West Ham on upwards trajectories. That’s progress. The league never lies.

 

[freeglennhelder2]

That’s all you can take from all those stats I posted, ‘Arseblog weren’t as anti Wenger as you’re making out’. What about how superb the stats were that season, and how poor they are now. Yet Wenger was deemed sackable and Arteta is doing fine, for some Trumpesque fake news reason.

Arseblog was one of the longest, and most vociferous online supporters of Wenger in the face of steadily increasing anti-Wenger sentiment. For you to lump him in the same 'Wenger out' catergory as AFTV shows a gargantuan lack of knowledge about a subject that you have preached about on an almost daily basis.

If you got that wrong then it would be remiss of us not to at least consider what else you are getting wrong.

 

[Iceman10]

- Saliba alienated
- Pepe dropped when in form
- Overplaying Saka
- Played Partey not fit and he got injured again
- Desperately plays Tierney vs City risking injury
- Not dropping Bellerin
- Nelson?
- Willian

I agree this is where he has brought it on himself to not have a core of 15-17 players in form and with confidence at any given time and that ultimately contributes to league position in my view. It’s a combination of marginalising players to assert his supposed culture and a failure to rotate in a smart way. For the former it gets worse because consistency is not there where at times he was lenient with Xhaka and Luiz.

Arteta’s preference for Luiz, Elneny, and Willian for depth at times has deprived other players from getting minutes and building their confidence which would have allowed them to develop into reliable players for the core squad of 15-17 players. I disagree with you on Tierney for City though, I can’t join in that criticism as I would have picked him also after all clear of sub appearance in the EL first leg.

 

[HairSprayGooners]

Unlucky for Mik a football season is 50 games played from September till May and not the short random period of 10 games when he didn't look crap.

Shut up. The point is there's clear improvements.

 

[HairSprayGooners]

Nice, the kind of form that got Wenger and Emery fired

From Christmas onwards the squad has been playing to their highest potential. Like I said earlier @OnlyOne

 

[Trilly]

For what it’s worth to Mikel I like what I see from our defence, think we’re 3/4th in the league with goals conceded, not sure on stats but it seems we face a lot less shots than we did with Emery. If leading by one or two I feel more comfortable we won’t concede.

Another thing I think that’s impressive is the fact it’s clear the team still back him, in our worst ever run since I started supporting Arsenal on the verge of relegation these guys still fight for him which is clear whereas emery was under the bus straightaway.

One more is it does feel like in the big games we’re much more competitive, beating United away, we’ve beaten Chelsea, Liverpool, City etc which is definitely something that I’d call improvement compared to last few years.

I’ll be Arteta out for the remainder of the season, but it’s clear he’s probably briefed to the team and the team know it that top 4 is done and Europa is what we need for CL. That was always the aim this season. I do believe that is what killed us in the last two seasons with Emery and Mikel is that we were always in both until it was too late and we failed in both because we’re not strong enough for that balance.

He needs to make Europa his baby, I only wanna see your guys like Partey start Europa or get fitness minutes in PL, use the remaining PL games to work on things for next year, ideally guys like a Ødegaard start every game **** it even Mat Ryan should get a gig.

Our Europa run will be nowhere near as hard as our FA Cup run but the stakes are certainly way way bigger.

He has a chance for redemption among the majority of the fan base.

Wrote all of this and not even a like to show for it. Onlyberg

 

[OnlyOne]

Wrote all of this and not even a like to show for it. Onlyberg

I was literally thinking I was trying to be nice to Michael for once and no one gave a ****. But cheers for pointing it Triou.

 

[EmeryCouldnt]

Unlucky for Mik a football season is 50 games played from September till May and not the short random period of 10 games when he didn't look crap.

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It's not a short random period. It's our most recent games we've played. You're picking a random period from September to December, and admittedly he did terrible in that time period and I was tearing my hair out.

We are saying, since he's got us playing better in our most recent fixtures, it is looking better than it did earlier in this season.

 

[Riou]

I was literally thinking I was trying to be nice to Michael for once and no one gave a ****. But cheers for pointing it Triou.

Was there any need for this, tiny?

 

[Riou]

Beginning to think I am a joke on this forum

 

[blaze_of_glory]

From Christmas onwards the squad has been playing to their highest potential. Like I said earlier @OnlyOne

So what happens if we improve the rest of the way? Playing beyond potential at that point?

 

[Trilly]

I was literally thinking I was trying to be nice to Michael for once and no one gave a ****. But cheers for pointing it Triou.

No problem Onlyflouric Onecid.

 

[goonergaz]

The league never lies.

I'm not so sure this season, the fixture list is incredibly congested and West Ham (in particular) will have benefited from not having to concentrate on anything but the league.

I mean, look at Liverpool - they don't go from 2 outstanding seasons to where they are now in a normal season.

As for us, this has highlighted many things wrong at Arsenal, one of which is the poor quality outside of the starting 11 - the injuries, fiasco with Özil and dip in form of Auba (including losing him for a while due to family reasons) have all been distorted.

This season is no way to judge anything by the table IMHO.

 

[HairSprayGooners]

So what happens if we improve the rest of the way? Playing beyond potential at that point?

What? The football we've been playing recently would be good enough for top 4 across an entire season.

The squad cant play at a title challenging level because it simply isn't good enough. Not sure what point you tried to make there.

 

[blaze_of_glory]

What? The football we've been playing recently would be good enough for top 4 across an entire season.

The squad cant play at a title challenging level because it simply isn't good enough. Not sure what point you tried to make there.

You posted stats showing us in 5th though...? And that's with other teams struggling as well.

My point is that no matter how we do you say it's as good as it can be. You were saying similar stuff when we were losing every game.

 

[Gooner416]

Wrote all of this and not even a like to show for it. Onlyberg

Forum has gone downhill since likes were introduced, incentivizes members to troll, insult and post memes rather than display deep footballing knowledge that OnlyDeep consistently demonstrates.

 

[Kav]

So Arteta fans are saying we should ignore the league table now?

 

[blaze_of_glory]

So Arteta fans are saying we should ignore the league table now?

Ignore your eyes, for they may deceive you. You must heed only vibes.

 

[Kav]

Forum has gone downhill since likes were introduced, incentivizes members to troll, insult and post memes rather than display deep footballing knowledge that OnlyDeep consistently demonstrates.

Did @OnlyOne and @GDeep™ have a love child that you seem to know about?

Edit: Ah I see whats going on....