Mikel Arteta: Aston La Vista To The Title?

[CaseUteinberger]

We should open up the poll again. I have been giving this more thought and I would be fine with giving Arteta another year.

It has been a poor season but we are still only 5 points or so off Liverpool and Sp**s. With some referee decisions going our way we would be level or above them.

Problem I have is that too many on AM make it seem like we should just easily brush aside teams like West Brom. West Brom is a team that put 5 past Chelsea just a little of a month ago and have played quite well over the last 2 months or so and have won or drawn quite a few games lately.

Yes, Arteta has made some mistakes but that was bound to happen given his inexperience.

I was really disappointed after the EL elimination but now I have calmed down. The team still plays for him and if the club backs him hopefully next season will be better.

 

[Monstar-Gunn4r]

He still hasn't managed to instil basics in to the team like forming passing triangles in midfield, dont give space to an attacker, how to close down attacking players, pass and move.

This is ignoring some other required stuff like pressing as a cohesive unit or developing a style of play that doesn't depend on one player not getting injured.

Hes made us more solid but so could steve bruce, I think the only difference yesterday was Arteta had better players.

 

[Sanchez11]

I really cant stand the bloke tbh, im out!!

 

[Rimaal]

@OnlyOne everyone on the TL saying this guy is reliable

But we already knew that, any way.

 

[Rimaal]

I can't with this guy, I just can't. He's a hypocrite and a shyster.

 

[shoot for the top]

How does one fail all objectives and keep his job?

 

[Bloodbather]

Not sure getting a Utd fan, City fan and Chelsea fan to talk about Arsenal is the best way to get a objective discussion What annoyed me was when the Chelsea fan said no one wants Arteta out...excuse me?!?! That City fan is just a wind-up merchant though, don't think i've ever heard him say anything that wasn't 100% bullsh*t. Has such a smug, punchable face too.

Yeah I didn't really get that point, either. Seems out of touch with the Arsenal fanbase.

 

[Bloodbather]

This is such a maddening take. It reinforces my suspicion that Arteta only gave ESR a chance because he had no other option in that Chelsea game, too.

I can't believe how opposite of what we thought he was Arteta turned out to be. Conservative stubborn manager overly infatuated with the "non-negotiables" who favors hackneyed players over promising youngsters.

 

[berric]

Wish I had Kroenke's as my owners. Hands untied to burn down the company while I learn and then I feck off to a different venture.

 

[dka1]

Spoiler

Those grannies do look kind though, no cap, they can erm.....bake me some cookies lol.

 

[Abhishek Arora]

Arsenal's number 1 Bernd Leno is up for sale a year after they sold Emi Martinez so Leno would remain number 1

 

[LuanNguyen]

But we already knew that, any way.

Any news saying that Arteta was going to stay was fake.

 

[mirrorstare]

So far things are going as expected, we'll do **** all, allow Arteta to waste serious money on more Cedrics and suffer long term consequences for it.

A perfect time to stop watching.

 

[Iceman10]

We should open up the poll again. I have been giving this more thought and I would be fine with giving Arteta another year.

It has been a poor season but we are still only 5 points or so off Liverpool and Sp**s. With some referee decisions going our way we would be level or above them.

Problem I have is that too many on AM make it seem like we should just easily brush aside teams like West Brom. West Brom is a team that put 5 past Chelsea just a little of a month ago and have played quite well over the last 2 months or so and have won or drawn quite a few games lately.

Yes, Arteta has made some mistakes but that was bound to happen given his inexperience.

I was really disappointed after the EL elimination but now I have calmed down. The team still plays for him and if the club backs him hopefully next season will be better.

I had a feeling this would happen with one or two the longer after the Villareal two legs. If one is stuck with the allure of a supposed young manager with a high ceiling growing into a job despite inexperience, just remember the poor selections, game plans, tactics, in-game management, etc. over the two legs against Villareal. It is all factual and verifiable. Remember that was 18 months into the job. Does that show a young manager evolving on an upwards trend, or are there signs of traits that won't change? There are also things with management of players like Martinelli, where there is a pattern established with no signs of change. There is just a picture of Arteta's development curve as a manager, just like young players are scouted to assess their remaining development curves.

For me it wasn't the two legs against Villareal, it was similar with approaches in matches against West Ham and Liverpool earlier, but I do think the evidence was for anyone to see if they break down why we lost to Villareal, 18 months into his job.

Don't worry, I'm not trying hard to convert you, you are free to think your own way and the poll above is good enough for me in seeing around 85% of Arsenal fans feel the same way I do. I'm just laying out why I feel there is no solid argument to defend Arteta anymore because your comment perhaps shows some disconnect from understanding why people are where they are at with Arteta, where there are solid rational arguments against him, not just irrational hate.

 

[shoot for the top]

Arsenal's number 1 Bernd Leno is up for sale a year after they sold Emi Martinez so Leno would remain number 1

Another masterstroke by Lego man.

 

[mirrorstare]

People should stop pretending to be insightful by clutching at straws for giving Arteta more time, nobody is buying your ramblings.

The real reason is the same reason the owner discussion isn't an interesting one, you can't actually control the outcome. You're just trying to rationalize why you have to keep watching Artetaball, nothing else.

 

[Xln]

I had a feeling this would happen with one or two the longer after the Villareal two legs. If one is stuck with the allure of a supposed young manager with a high ceiling growing into a job despite inexperience, just remember the poor selections, game plans, tactics, in-game management, etc. over the two legs against Villareal. It is all factual and verifiable. Remember that was 18 months into the job. Does that show a young manager evolving on an upwards trend, or are there signs of traits that won't change? There are also things with management of players like Martinelli, where there is a pattern established with no signs of change. There is just a picture of Arteta's development curve as a manager, just like young players are scouted to assess their remaining development curves.

For me it wasn't the two legs against Villareal, it was similar with approaches in matches against West Ham and Liverpool earlier, but I do think the evidence was for anyone to see if they break down why we lost to Villareal, 18 months into his job.

Don't worry, I'm not trying hard to convert you, you are free to think your own way and the poll above is good enough for me in seeing around 85% of Arsenal fans feel the same way I do. I'm just laying out why I feel there is no solid argument to defend Arteta anymore because your comment perhaps shows some disconnect from understanding why people are where they are at with Arteta, where there are solid rational arguments against him, not just irrational hate.

I was really calling for Arteta out as well but after these few days I'm thinking to give him another season with his summer transfers.
My argument is that imo this squad is of low quality and i would be Arteta out if we get a long term coach with good vision for attractive football and arsenal identity.
If we are going for Allegri, for example, then i can live with another season of Arteta. Imo an Allegri or Benitez won't transform these clowns on the pitch.

 

[TimoJens]

Cant believe that @American_Gooner seemed convinced that he would get the sack.

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

This doesn’t make sense, blaming which young players? Only two play for us, Saka and ESR, and one of them is our BEST player.

And the other one seems to be the only one that can make our attack function to a decent level these days...

 

[Penn_]

At least if the board back him after the season we’ve had we should be in for a busy summer. That’s the only positive I can really think of right now.