qs
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Re: Arsenal vs Wigan | EPL | 06/12/08 | 15:00
Silvestre is worse than Eboue, he's been shocking all season.
Silvestre is worse than Eboue, he's been shocking all season.
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PL: Arsenal vs Wigan | 06/12/08
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asajoseph
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Re: Arsenal vs Wigan | EPL | 06/12/08 | 15:00
Spot on.
Eboue was in danger of giving away the game - Wenger was absolutely right to remove him.
Unfortunately, he did the whole 'crap centre-back on the left wing' thing again, but in the end it didn't matter - we held on.
Spot on.
Eboue was in danger of giving away the game - Wenger was absolutely right to remove him.
Unfortunately, he did the whole 'crap centre-back on the left wing' thing again, but in the end it didn't matter - we held on.
AnthonyG
Arse Emeritus
Re: Arsenal vs Wigan | EPL | 06/12/08 | 15:00
Yeah, and given the Sp**s' game in particular perhaps feeling enough nerves without the boo-birds chirping in.qs said:
kamikaze80
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Re: Arsenal vs Wigan | EPL | 06/12/08 | 15:00
agree 100% and i cant wait for this guy to be sold as he adds no value to the squad whatsoever. eboue at least has a part to play.qs said:
qs
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Re: Arsenal vs Wigan | EPL | 06/12/08 | 15:00
Can't believe we brought him in and sent Phil out. Senderos for all his flaws is twice the player Silvestre is.
Can't believe we brought him in and sent Phil out. Senderos for all his flaws is twice the player Silvestre is.
SimplyFabregas
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Re: Arsenal vs Wigan | EPL | 06/12/08 | 15:00
I'd like to see Clichy taken off at the 85th minute mark in these kind of games, the guy is great, but he always makes me nervous when a game is close at the end, and were under pressure.
Of course i'm joking, but he needs to think more and play with abit more caution at the end of these types of games. Toure aswell seems to be quite weak mentally and panics under pressure.
I'd like to see Clichy taken off at the 85th minute mark in these kind of games, the guy is great, but he always makes me nervous when a game is close at the end, and were under pressure.
Of course i'm joking, but he needs to think more and play with abit more caution at the end of these types of games. Toure aswell seems to be quite weak mentally and panics under pressure.
Captain
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Re: Arsenal vs Wigan | EPL | 06/12/08 | 15:00
Silvestre can cover left back better then Phil. That's the only realistic reason.
Silvestre can cover left back better then Phil. That's the only realistic reason.
General
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Re: Arsenal vs Wigan | EPL | 06/12/08 | 15:00
Yep.
Poster boy in the matchday program too.
I guess it summed up the game.
qs said:
Yep.
Poster boy in the matchday program too.
I guess it summed up the game.
JazzG
Established Member
Re: Arsenal vs Wigan | EPL | 06/12/08 | 15:00
Not a great performance but right now we just need to string a few wins together to make sure our season doesn't completely fall apart. We do have some tricky games coming up, Boro away, Liverpool home and Villa away are our next three matches and it is important we don't lose any of these games.
Not a great performance but right now we just need to string a few wins together to make sure our season doesn't completely fall apart. We do have some tricky games coming up, Boro away, Liverpool home and Villa away are our next three matches and it is important we don't lose any of these games.
Tony Montana
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Re: Arsenal vs Wigan | EPL | 06/12/08 | 15:00
We probably won't win all of them though and we need to in order to win the league.
We probably won't win all of them though and we need to in order to win the league.
progman07
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Re: Arsenal vs Wigan | EPL | 06/12/08 | 15:00
Soo true. You can't believe how angry I was to see that big head coming on for Eboue. Also after coming on he managed to lose the ball twice. I wonder what Wenger was thinking when he resorted to signing Silvestre, and now he thinks putting him on makes us stable... Ahh ridiculous.qs said:
That's also right, that man utd guy is playing like he was against us, not with us.qs said:
Senderos, while making an odd ****-up in every 5th game, was perfect in the other 4 games. Silvestre is making crucial ****-ups in every single game, as well as being a big-headed cnut.qs said:
JazzG
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Re: Arsenal vs Wigan | EPL | 06/12/08 | 15:00
Well we ain't gonna win the league even if we win all three of them. Our team simply isn't good enough and that is something we need to realise.
Well we ain't gonna win the league even if we win all three of them. Our team simply isn't good enough and that is something we need to realise.
General
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Re: Arsenal vs Wigan | EPL | 06/12/08 | 15:00
I have to mention Palacious. What a c*nt . Perhaps still bitter Wenger decided not to sign him up and I’m sure not many would’ve complained if he’d received his marching orders for that tackle on Nasri.
I have to mention Palacious. What a c*nt . Perhaps still bitter Wenger decided not to sign him up and I’m sure not many would’ve complained if he’d received his marching orders for that tackle on Nasri.
dutchMasta
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Re: Arsenal vs Wigan | EPL | 06/12/08 | 15:00
God damn, went out, they didn't show the match but I saw the result and was ecstatic. All I wanted was a win. Come back, check A-M and it's complete chaos! Going to download and watch the game. Seems like we managed to pull off a win without a gain in confidence. Saw some highlights, was glad to see Edu on the side, miss those blinking eyes, can't wait til he starts playing.
Seems Denilson had a better game, good thing to hear. Booing though was completely wrong. Understand that people want to voice frustration on the team, and Eboue is one of the more frustrating players, but he's just come back from injury and is being played way out of position by Wenger. Wenger can't get booed, so the only real way is to boo the team, not a single player. Would hate that too, but singling out a player undeservedly, unless he really doesn't give a crap or has done/said something really wrong, is going way too far. Saw some clips so can't really say much, but after I watch the match, I'll have a better idea of what happened. Really doesn't sound good though.
God damn, went out, they didn't show the match but I saw the result and was ecstatic. All I wanted was a win. Come back, check A-M and it's complete chaos! Going to download and watch the game. Seems like we managed to pull off a win without a gain in confidence. Saw some highlights, was glad to see Edu on the side, miss those blinking eyes, can't wait til he starts playing.
Seems Denilson had a better game, good thing to hear. Booing though was completely wrong. Understand that people want to voice frustration on the team, and Eboue is one of the more frustrating players, but he's just come back from injury and is being played way out of position by Wenger. Wenger can't get booed, so the only real way is to boo the team, not a single player. Would hate that too, but singling out a player undeservedly, unless he really doesn't give a crap or has done/said something really wrong, is going way too far. Saw some clips so can't really say much, but after I watch the match, I'll have a better idea of what happened. Really doesn't sound good though.
kamikaze80
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Re: Arsenal vs Wigan | EPL | 06/12/08 | 15:00
senderos is a better CB than silvestre, gallas is a better LB than silvestre. wenger has lost his mojo and he needs to snap back to reality cos his moves over the last year have been an unmitigated disaster. except for ramsey, every move or lack of a move over the last 12 months has weakened the squad.
except milan have an option to buy. even if they dont exercise it (it doesnt look like they will), it's a clear sign that wenger has given up on senderos and just picked up whatever garbage he could find on the street.Captain said:
senderos is a better CB than silvestre, gallas is a better LB than silvestre. wenger has lost his mojo and he needs to snap back to reality cos his moves over the last year have been an unmitigated disaster. except for ramsey, every move or lack of a move over the last 12 months has weakened the squad.
Klaus Daimler
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Re: Arsenal vs Wigan | EPL | 06/12/08 | 15:00
I don't know what people are moaning about today. We played a really good game, had at least four chances that should have been a certain goal, three hits on the woodwork, and kept a clean sheet. But even more important, Wigan didn't managed more than one really good chance, and Almunia made a phantom save to deny them anything on it. I really like the fact that Kolo and Djourou worked well together in central defence. It was great entertainment, a good result and some nice football that indicated that we're on our way back to find some form.
I don't know what people are moaning about today. We played a really good game, had at least four chances that should have been a certain goal, three hits on the woodwork, and kept a clean sheet. But even more important, Wigan didn't managed more than one really good chance, and Almunia made a phantom save to deny them anything on it. I really like the fact that Kolo and Djourou worked well together in central defence. It was great entertainment, a good result and some nice football that indicated that we're on our way back to find some form.
Captain
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Re: Arsenal vs Wigan | EPL | 06/12/08 | 15:00
I don't really see what relevance Milan's option to buy has. Silvestre was a permanent signing and it is likely that he was preferred to Senderos because he can play left back as well.
Gallas is first choice centre half so his ability to play left back is not really a concern when deciding the relative strengths of your back-up players.
In my opinion, our squad is stronger then last year but our first team is weaker.
I don't really see what relevance Milan's option to buy has. Silvestre was a permanent signing and it is likely that he was preferred to Senderos because he can play left back as well.
Gallas is first choice centre half so his ability to play left back is not really a concern when deciding the relative strengths of your back-up players.
In my opinion, our squad is stronger then last year but our first team is weaker.
qs
Established Member
Re: Arsenal vs Wigan | EPL | 06/12/08 | 15:00
I agree Klaus. I thought we were fairly good and very unlucky not to get at least another goal. Before the booing started we were coasting and Toure and Djourou were rock solid. Sagna was great too. Clichy was off form, fair enough, it happens. Denilson did well, Ade was great, Robin decent. Midfield wasn't brilliant but Cesc had an ok second half, some nice passing. Almunia had his best game in ages. What do people want? It was a good win, its the start of us digging ourselves out of a rut.
I'll never understand the majority of fans TBH. Today I heard a Pool fan on the radio saying Rafa should be sacked. Ridiculous.
I agree Klaus. I thought we were fairly good and very unlucky not to get at least another goal. Before the booing started we were coasting and Toure and Djourou were rock solid. Sagna was great too. Clichy was off form, fair enough, it happens. Denilson did well, Ade was great, Robin decent. Midfield wasn't brilliant but Cesc had an ok second half, some nice passing. Almunia had his best game in ages. What do people want? It was a good win, its the start of us digging ourselves out of a rut.
I'll never understand the majority of fans TBH. Today I heard a Pool fan on the radio saying Rafa should be sacked. Ridiculous.
Klaus Daimler
Established Member
Re: Arsenal vs Wigan | EPL | 06/12/08 | 15:00
Some people are never happy. We hit the woodwork three times today and both Adebayor and Denilson were immense. We should have had at least 3-0. But the most important thing today, three points aside, was the clean sheet. I'm nothing short of impressed by how good Touré and Djourou looked. Wigan didn't get through once, except for that unlucky corner where Al made the best save of his career. All their shots were from distance or out of angle due to their incapability of getting behind our defence. Clichy left a bit too much space on his flank, but that was pretty much it.qs said:
