Premier League 2017/18: We(nger) Go Again

[Lookin' for a new Baby]

Read thousands of posts on this forum. Most deserve the bin. But this one is gold plated.

Some people have a knack of keeping their heads when all those around have lost theirs.

Only the ones you don't agree with!

 

[Makingtrax]

I agree he is correct. Definitely. I am just not sure all these posters have an agenda. What would they gain? As you normally point out, the media has a lot to do with this.

Can't post at the mo, Pelcro has somehow overcome my content blocker.

 

[Makingtrax]

Only the ones you don't agree with!

You would say that, because you're a frustrated based poster

 

[Lookin' for a new Baby]

Can't post at the mo, Pelcro has somehow overcome my content blocker.

Look at the bottom threads, there is something about getting rid of it, I had to do it but I can't remember what I did.

 

[Lookin' for a new Baby]

You would say that, because you're a frustrated based poster

No I'm not, it took me a long time to want Wenger gone, but we are going nowhere, this season should show that.

 

[Kroket]

Pretty much agree with that apart from the Sp**s and Liverpool bit.

Liverpool are throwing money at the league at the mo and their squad is £100m more than ours, which is reflected in the league positions.

Sp**s have two cheap players that have turned out to be very high value players, which is extremely rare. If they get poached Sp**s will regress to their normal level.

Liverpool are throwing money around but selling Suarez, Sterling and now Coutinho has given them plenty of room to do so. It's probably not a sustainable business model but for now it's working for them. It looks like they have another £150m asset in Salah so they look set for the near future.

Fully agreed on Sp**s though. Of their post-Bale spending spree only Eriksen has been a success and they completely lucked into Kane. While they've made a few shrewd buys recently they've also overspent on real dross. Think they deserve real credit for finding and developing Alli however.

Will have to wait and see what they do after their own stadium move for now. Hard to see them keeping this up after Kane, Alli and Poch are gone.

 

[Kroket]

Can't post at the mo, Pelcro has somehow overcome my content blocker.

If you use uBlock, simply adding pelcro.com to the filter list from the dashboard did the trick for me.

 

[Mark Tobias]

Liverpool are throwing money around but selling Suarez, Sterling and now Coutinho has given them plenty of room to do so. It's probably not a sustainable business model but for now it's working for them. .

Working in what way? Finishing a point above us last season? Not as if they're lapping up titles everywhere. Their fans are basically in the same boat as ours except that we have three recent trophies to brag.... What do they have?

 

[Lookin' for a new Baby]

Working in what way? Finishing a point above us last season? Not as if they're lapping up titles everywhere. Their fans are basically in the same boat as ours except that we have three recent trophies to brag.... What do they have?

Upward momentum.

 

[Makingtrax]

No I'm not, it took me a long time to want Wenger gone, but we are going nowhere, this season should show that.

The season isn't over yet my friend.

 

[Lookin' for a new Baby]

The season isn't over yet my friend.

It so is. Unless we buy somebody great, get Laca scoring and defend well.

 

[Kroket]

Working in what way? Finishing a point above us last season? Not as if they're lapping up titles everywhere. Their fans are basically in the same boat as ours except that we have three recent trophies to brag.... What do they have?

They're on an upward curve, are signing exciting players, play entertaining football and aren't plunging themselves into debt to do so.

Still have to convert it into actual results of course but I reckon it's an exciting time to be a Liverpool fan.

 

[Mark Tobias]

Upward momentum.

They're on an upward curve, are signing exciting players, play entertaining football and aren't plunging themselves into debt to do so.

Still have to convert it into actual results of course but I reckon it's an exciting time to be a Liverpool fan.

Please explain your logic of thinking Pool have upward momentum when they yo-yo up and down the league between 3rd and 8th....

16/17 - 4th
15/16 - 8th
14/15 - 6th
13/14 - 2nd
12/13 - 7th

Hardly the mark of consistently rising to the top....

 

[Makingtrax]

Please explain your logic of thinking Pool have upward momentum when they yo-yo up and down the league between 3rd and 8th....

16/17 - 4th
15/16 - 8th
14/15 - 6th
13/14 - 2nd
12/13 - 7th

Hardly the mark of consistently rising to the top....

Liverpool have undoubtedly outspent us, since Wenger came.

Those results right there with changing managers show what we would have been like with other managers.

The campaign against Wenger is almost criminal.

 

[Makingtrax]

People are talking about this capitulation rubbish because they expected so much more from Wenger than they had a right to expect.

He was just very good not a ****ing genius.

 

[Mark Tobias]

People are talking about this capitulation rubbish because they expected so much more from Wenger than they had a right to expect.

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Sorry, but that is bullshit. The club and Wenger himself built these expectations

It is Wenger who said we were close to the league title and still has not delivered.

 

[Dennis_Bergkamp_10]

Sorry, but that is bullshit. The club and Wenger himself built these expectations

It is Wenger who said we were close to the league title and still has not delivered.

This is the problem. We might not be the richest club but we still have plenty to spend. Add to that the fact that Gazidis said that we were going to be a super club back in 2012 and that Wenger says every year that we can challenge for the title.

Clearly he can't. And fans are calling him out.

 

[Makingtrax]

Sorry, but that is bullshit. The club and Wenger himself built these expectations

It is Wenger who said we were close to the league title and still has not delivered.

I'm not judging Arsenal by their words, but by their spend. If you judged clubs by their words, they'd all be failures

 

[Mark Tobias]

I'm not judging Arsenal by their words, but by their spend. If you judged clubs by their words, they'd all be failures

Name any other manager that has made a promise like this
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...le-with-Arsenal-again-inside-three-years.html

 

[Makingtrax]

Name any other manager that has made a promise like this
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...le-with-Arsenal-again-inside-three-years.html

Don't give a sh*t. People spout all kinds of rubbish.

Trying to look at Arsenal's achievements objectively/scientifically, this doesn't interest me.