Its looks to just be a loan above his current ability & nothing wrong with that at 19. The club was in a hard position with his contract ticking down & maybe an exciting loan helped close.
Why the **** ESR went to RB is beyond me.
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Reiss Nelson: Time to Shine?
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Why the **** ESR went to RB is beyond me.
ArsenalFever
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Even the experience of travelling to another country and training with a foreign team could be beneficial to the development of youth players, those teen years, usually when the foundation is cemented.
GDeep™
League is very weak
In recent years it seems our academy players aren’t up to first team standards.
Chelsea have an Hudson Odoi knocking on the door, Utd always produce kids, Liverpool have Trent etc.
Chelsea have an Hudson Odoi knocking on the door, Utd always produce kids, Liverpool have Trent etc.
Now that Hoffenheim are possibly chasing a European place, they're not going to give a loanee playing time over one of their guys. Same thing happens when you send a kid to a relegation threatened side.
No big deal though, think Nelson will come back next season and be a quality squad option.
No big deal though, think Nelson will come back next season and be a quality squad option.
9jagooner
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I said this a few weeks ago but loads here disagreed.
GDeep™
League is very weak
Rashford at Utd, straight in and BANG.
HBL
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Our fans are so impatient.
rich 1990
Not A Big Believer In Diversity
Been saying it for ages, G. Said a year or so ago that AMN was rubbish and Beksi called me a muppet. Course, he's jumped on the bandwagon now.
Smith Rowe has the best chance out of our youngsters but even then, I don't think he'll cut it.
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Agreed. I shy away from chastising our own fanbase but we are disappointing IMO.
9jagooner
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I mean I want our academy players to do well for our first team but we need to be honest in terms of what's happening in reality.
I still have high hopes with players like Willock, Saka and Amaechi in particular. I Perhaps if we do very well in first leg of EL, we can give them a try. But I have seen very high quality players like JET, Freeman (who isn't doing too badly at QPR), Aneke, etc not make it at Arsenal and IMO, those players were at way higher levels than any of the players in our academy at the moment.
They are still young though and we all know 1 year is a long time for young players.
I still have high hopes with players like Willock, Saka and Amaechi in particular. I Perhaps if we do very well in first leg of EL, we can give them a try. But I have seen very high quality players like JET, Freeman (who isn't doing too badly at QPR), Aneke, etc not make it at Arsenal and IMO, those players were at way higher levels than any of the players in our academy at the moment.
They are still young though and we all know 1 year is a long time for young players.
HBL
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Rich, you said Hudson-Odoi was rubbish!
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I don't agree. They need to be given chances.
rich 1990
Not A Big Believer In Diversity
They are being given chances. Europa, Carabao and the Fa cup is more than some kids get. Not exactly stood out when they've been given the chance.
HBL
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Me and Hydro were discussing him and I think you said something along those lines.
NieThePiet
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At least around 10 minutes for him now.
HBL
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Hoffenheim have been garbage in the second half, can hardly string a run of passes together.
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I like Grillitsch though, uses the ball well. Rare for one of their players.
9jagooner
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I don't know about knowing whether a player will make it or not. Unless we have a crystal ball that sees into the future, it's impossible to say. But at the moment, I don't think any of them is at the level say Szczesny was when he was at Brentford and ready to come into the first team or Wilshere at Bolton. At that, even those players had to go on loan to prove themselves.
I'm with you on giving players chances but we need as fans to decide what we want. Do we want to try these players at the mercy of our Top 4 challenge or chance of winning a trophy (EL, Carabao or FA cups)?
It's on this same platform we see Iwobi insulted over one or two bad games. Imagine Saka or Smith-Rowe having a bad game (which is bound to happen)? Imagine what will happen to their confidence. I'm with giving players chances but given the position the club is at the moment, I think those chances should be loans to other clubs for them to prove themselves.
Nelson played loads of games in Arsène's last season but who would you say he is able to replace in our team today given the fact that we are desperate for top 4? I know you've been following the youth team for years now, can you confidently pick one player from the current crop better than any of JET, Aneke, Luke Freeman, Lansbury - like for like?
I can't. Yet none of those guys fitted into our first team.
I'm with you on giving players chances but we need as fans to decide what we want. Do we want to try these players at the mercy of our Top 4 challenge or chance of winning a trophy (EL, Carabao or FA cups)?
It's on this same platform we see Iwobi insulted over one or two bad games. Imagine Saka or Smith-Rowe having a bad game (which is bound to happen)? Imagine what will happen to their confidence. I'm with giving players chances but given the position the club is at the moment, I think those chances should be loans to other clubs for them to prove themselves.
Nelson played loads of games in Arsène's last season but who would you say he is able to replace in our team today given the fact that we are desperate for top 4? I know you've been following the youth team for years now, can you confidently pick one player from the current crop better than any of JET, Aneke, Luke Freeman, Lansbury - like for like?
I can't. Yet none of those guys fitted into our first team.
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