Armor for Sleep
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He's a touch player more than a battler. Don't think he'd improve us much in that regard.KY said:
I don't want him here.
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Stephen Ireland
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I don't want him here.
qs said:
I know you are Irish and wanna big up your fellow country man, but Ireland doesnt do much work defensively, he's a player with a nice touch and good at passing short passes, but he's weak, the game easily pass him by, he rarely wins tackles or headers. He's also mentally insane. He's an attacking midfielder who has been average all his career except 6 months where everything went for him.
Nasri is twice the player he is, Rosicky and Diaby are better players than him as well. He added nothing to City both defensively and attacking this season, so much that Mancini felt Vieira would add more going forward than him. He is not good enough
Captain
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definitely better than Nasri right now.
otfgoon
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Abs said:
I would be stunned if anyone Irish would want to big him up.
Ireland more talented than Nasri is a laughable statement.
qs
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Abs said:
qs
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I don't think he's got the class or quality of Nasri anyway but him and Diaby would be pretty close. And I'd rather have him than Rosicky but in fairness what does Rosicky contribute?
In terms of talent he could be a top player. A bit like Lampard, a goal scoring attacking mid who does his bit in midfield. In fact he probably has as much actual talent as Lampard. Unfortunately he doesn't have Lampards mental qualities. The things that took Lampard from being a decent player to being one of the best players in the league. He has no ambition, no love of the game and he just plays for the wage. This isn't the club for that sort of attitude.
In terms of talent he could be a top player. A bit like Lampard, a goal scoring attacking mid who does his bit in midfield. In fact he probably has as much actual talent as Lampard. Unfortunately he doesn't have Lampards mental qualities. The things that took Lampard from being a decent player to being one of the best players in the league. He has no ambition, no love of the game and he just plays for the wage. This isn't the club for that sort of attitude.
qs
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Did you read what I wrote? I'm saying he could have had the potential to be that good in terms of natural talent. He wont be that good ever because he doesn't have Lampards professionalism and ambition.
At first that's what I thought you meant, but when you said...
It sounds like you meant it as in he's as good technically as Lampard at the moment. If you mean potentially, I agree that he could be and that his lack of drive will stop him from being the player he could be.
qs said:
It sounds like you meant it as in he's as good technically as Lampard at the moment. If you mean potentially, I agree that he could be and that his lack of drive will stop him from being the player he could be.
qs said:
He is a nice tidy player, but he lacks not only the mental part, but the physical part to become a top player. Rosicky is more talented than him and even right now I would take Rosicky ahead of him.
As for Diaby goes, he's a better passer than Diaby, but he doesnt have the drive or dribbling ability. And he doesnt have anywhere near the work rate or the defensive game Diaby has, not thats its great, but because Irelands is non excisting
MDGoonah41
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I'd take him as a Rosicky replacement if the price is less than £10M. But why would Citeh sell him? Its not like they need the money.
bradleywalrus
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the link sounds a little hopeful of irish television to be honest. An extremely talented player, yes mentally insane but mentally for his age as clever as any other footballer on the pitch. He strikes a skinny figure but is actually deceptively strong, he's a martial arts fanatic and is always training. Though he shows no pride in playing for his country or not pulling down his shorts he seems to be a bit of a workaholic I believe he had some bone disease as a teenager so it might stem from back then
That all said his attitude is just not suitable here and I would not like him here, would probably be too expensive and not that much if any better than nasri
That all said his attitude is just not suitable here and I would not like him here, would probably be too expensive and not that much if any better than nasri
qs
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Abs said:
Sounds like you have only watched him for the last year.
qs
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-Shaun- said:
He's probably already passed the point to reach that level now. If he'd kept going when he doing well at City and for Ireland instead of being mental he could have made it big. But he didn't and he wont so who cares really.
Personally I'd rather Cole, Özil, etc
Captain
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Abs said:
I've seen Ireland's current peak and Nasri's current peak and Ireland's is higher.
bradleywalrus
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in fairness to him told whole grandma fiasco was just badly judged, his girlfriend had a miscarriage which I'm sure was pretty heartbreaking and he didn't want to tell people in case it embarrassed her or something who knows, so he was trying to do the right thing
