Brotherz said:D Alves... I can see Wenger buying him if Barca sell cheap enough.
He wants to leave.
He's 31 - the same age as Sagna.
Brotherz said:D Alves... I can see Wenger buying him if Barca sell cheap enough.
He wants to leave.
That's why I think he will step in and replace Sagna well.Anzac said:Brotherz said:D Alves... I can see Wenger buying him if Barca sell cheap enough.
He wants to leave.
He's 31 - the same age as Sagna.
Brotherz said:That's why I think he will step in and replace Sagna well.
Jenkinson is not a bad young right back to have as a backup.
Anzac said:Brotherz said:That's why I think he will step in and replace Sagna well.
Jenkinson is not a bad young right back to have as a backup.
IMO whilst he's an upgrade on Sagna offensively I think we'd have the same contract issues re his age in trying to sign him as has resulted in Sagna's departure.
Penn_ said:Why does everyone think Cesc can't tackle, when given a role similar to Ramsey's he had about 2.6 tackle per game which is good. If Wenger wanted that team then it wouldn't leak goals, people like to push this idea because of the glamour of a DM in big games. When in reality there things we can address to win those games.
Anzac said:ArsenesNO1Fan said:You're wrong on Arteta, he makes a very high number of tackles per game, even now past his prime he's averaging 3.4 tackles per game, the same as Schneiderlin and joint 3rd highest in the league. Arteta ranks only 31st in the PL on interceptions at 2.0, compared to Schneiderlin's 2.1. He does lack physical presence and stamina now ofcourse.
You're looking at stats out of context again, as I said we dominate possession so we won't make as many tackles. Barce and Bayern make less tackles and interceptions than us because they rarely give the ball away.
Defensively the Arteta/Ramsey pivot is pretty sound, but we should look to get an Arteta replacement or understudy if possible.
ManC won the PL and their stats are as good and usually better than ours in every category. Most of the top PL & CL teams make more tackles than us and we are in the mix re interceptions. Bayern are an anomaly as they had 71% possession with Barca 2nd at 67% & PSG as the only other team above 60%.
Arteta makes tackles but IMO they are not 'good' tackles, as whilst he ranks 7th in the PL re tackles, he is also joint highest for dribbled by amongst those with the higher tackle counts at DM. This suggests that his tackling may be more of a last resort/desperation than being an actual strength.
I also note that he has few yellow cards compared to most other primary DMs - Gareth Barry has 10 compared to Ateta's 3 (even Flamini and Rozza have 8 apiece as does Scheiderlin & even Shrek). However at the same time Arteta also has a red card whilst only Flamini does from those other names, and none of the top7 re yellows. This to me also indicates that there are issues either with Arteta's play and/or our defensive patterns.
MutableEarth said:Wenger was apparently jizzing on commentary over Griezmann again, compared him to Pires for a 2nd time.
Hopefully he puts a ring on it
(Griezmann scored 2 from the bench tonight)
Iceman10 said:MutableEarth said:Wenger was apparently jizzing on commentary over Griezmann again, compared him to Pires for a 2nd time.
Hopefully he puts a ring on it
(Griezmann scored 2 from the bench tonight)
I don't want to be Wenger bashing and generally admire the man, there are few in the world that could do what he does, but at the end of the day he can admire a player as much he wants but he will only get that player if his valuation is agreeable with the prospective selling club, not least as other clubs are in for Griezmann. Also I suspect Griezmann is one of a few players being considered for LW, perhaps in his case as an option for CF long term also, but of course Di Maria would be ahead of him if available and we wouldn't get both. Griezmann to RM and Di Maria to Arsenal would be nice :wink:
Johnny_Blaze said:I would go with Di Maria every time. I'd be happy to pay £10m-£15m more for him than Griezmann even if he scores fewer goals. He and Özil had a wonderful partnership in Madrid.
Real's counter-attacks with Di Maria and Özil running through teams were things of beauty.
MutableEarth said:Iceman10 said:MutableEarth said:Wenger was apparently jizzing on commentary over Griezmann again, compared him to Pires for a 2nd time.
Hopefully he puts a ring on it
(Griezmann scored 2 from the bench tonight)
I don't want to be Wenger bashing and generally admire the man, there are few in the world that could do what he does, but at the end of the day he can admire a player as much he wants but he will only get that player if his valuation is agreeable with the prospective selling club, not least as other clubs are in for Griezmann. Also I suspect Griezmann is one of a few players being considered for LW, perhaps in his case as an option for CF long term also, but of course Di Maria would be ahead of him if available and we wouldn't get both. Griezmann to RM and Di Maria to Arsenal would be nice :wink:
Depends what you want from left wing - assists or goals? Di Maria less likely to be outlet, but still direct. Griezmann is almost completely a wing-forward and will get goals.
Either way, we'll see.
Those two and hopefully a new, pacey striker would be more than enough, IMO. If the signing of Di Maria means no striker, then I want us to play Chamberlain out wide and Theo up front. I'm also certain Wenger will be working on Özil scoring more goals during pre-season.MutableEarth said:I'd be inclined to agree purely based on quality, but my dilemna would be this:
Who is on the end of those counter attacks? Just Theo and Rambo?
ArsenesNO1Fan said:Yes Arteta has been left for dead a few times this year, he lacks pace and power defensively. His positioning sees him cover for that and win the ball allot but he can still be beaten for pace too easily. Kheidra who we're linked to is the opposite in a way, not got a season on record where he averages more than 2 tackles but has a very very low dribbled past stat and is physically immense.
It's much worse when he's partnered with someone like Wilshere or Chamberlain ofcourse who doesn't defend. And against Chelsea when it seemed Cazorla and Arteta were the double pivot.