Unai Emery: Adios

[Makingtrax]

2003 actually sir.

I stand corrected, he bought the club a few weeks before the season 2003/4 started. Let’s be absolutely accurate.

 

[Makingtrax]

It's relevant in that you sack a manager to get better. Completely outside of Wenger context. But the comparison to the last manager is a viable one as to indicate if you've done the right thing in sacking the last guy and if you've got the right guy as successor. Regardless of points total and wtf not, if the new guy doesn't get better hard results, e.g. CL qualification, you could've just stuck with the last guy. 5th with 63 points or 5th with 73 points doesn't make a difference. It's still 5th. So in the evalution if it was right to get rid of the last manager and if the new manager is the right one, the comparison to the gone manager is the benchmark. Because you don't sack to get worse or do just the same, you sack to get better. I know for some this is a hard to handle fact with the two decade Wenger consistency, but that's how any other club is run.

A very fair assessment.

Where I differ to most posters, is that I always thought Wenger did very well given the constraints he was operating under. His stats were amazingly consistent apart from the last two seasons, which I discount because of the enormous pressure he was operating under.

Emery is subjected to similar constraints with Kroenke in charge, and is likely to get around 75 points, which puts him firmly in Wenger country. Which for me is very good. And particularly as it’s his first season.

I’m very happy with him, as I was with Wenger.

Those people who were frothing at the mouth with Wenger though are busting a gut to make this season look like a massive improvement. Well we didn’t lose 8-2 to United but we did lose 5-1 to Liverpool, our away form isn’t good and we’re still shipping goals. We lost to BATE, and to Rennes, but managed to pip them at home.

But I see this mainly as down to the squad and the lack of back up when injury strikes, rather than a problem with Emery. A squad is only as good as it’s weakest players and with the likes of Mustafi playing regularly, I’m not sure what any coach can do.

Emery needs time, before people judge him properly, but the early signs are good.

 

[Mark Tobias]

A very fair assessment.

Where I differ to most posters, is that I always thought Wenger did very well given the constraints he was operating under. His stats were amazingly consistent apart from the last two seasons, which I discount because of the enormous pressure he was operating under.

Emery is subjected to similar constraints with Kroenke in charge, and is likely to get around 75 points, which puts him firmly in Wenger country. Which for me is very good. And particularly as it’s his first season.

I’m very happy with him, as I was with Wenger.

Those people who were frothing at the mouth with Wenger though are busting a gut to make this season look like a massive improvement. Well we didn’t lose 8-2 to United but we did lose 5-1 to Liverpool, our away form isn’t good and we’re still shipping goals. We lost to BATE, and to Rennes, but managed to pip them at home.

But I see this mainly as down to the squad and the lack of back up when injury strikes, rather than a problem with Emery. A squad is only as good as it’s weakest players and with the likes of Mustafi playing regularly, I’m not sure what any coach can do.

Emery needs time, before people judge him properly, but the early signs are good.

I've never seen you hate a player as much as you hate Mustafi.
:rofl:

 

[Makingtrax]

I've never seen you hate a player as much as you hate Mustafi.
:rofl:

I don’t hate Mustafi. Just see him make crucial mistakes week in, week out. Apart from his heading ability, I really think he’s a poor footballer. But that’s just my opinion.

 

[Tourbillion]

I stand corrected, he bought the club a few weeks before the season 2003/4 started. Let’s be absolutely accurate.

Yep. In 2003 Chelsea went on a ridiculous spending spree. The likes of Duff, Johnson, Joe Cole and tonnes of others.

 

[Tourbillion]

A very fair assessment.

Where I differ to most posters, is that I always thought Wenger did very well given the constraints he was operating under. His stats were amazingly consistent apart from the last two seasons, which I discount because of the enormous pressure he was operating under.

Emery is subjected to similar constraints with Kroenke in charge, and is likely to get around 75 points, which puts him firmly in Wenger country. Which for me is very good. And particularly as it’s his first season.

I’m very happy with him, as I was with Wenger.

Those people who were frothing at the mouth with Wenger though are busting a gut to make this season look like a massive improvement. Well we didn’t lose 8-2 to United but we did lose 5-1 to Liverpool, our away form isn’t good and we’re still shipping goals. We lost to BATE, and to Rennes, but managed to pip them at home.

But I see this mainly as down to the squad and the lack of back up when injury strikes, rather than a problem with Emery. A squad is only as good as it’s weakest players and with the likes of Mustafi playing regularly, I’m not sure what any coach can do.

Emery needs time, before people judge him properly, but the early signs are good.

I'm mostly happy and impressed with him, but I remain worried about our away form. Can he turn it around over the coming games?

 

[Makingtrax]

I'm mostly happy and impressed with him, but I remain worried about our away form. Can he turn it around over the coming games?

I’m not sure he can, with our injuries and now a Sokratis ban as well. He needs a summer transfer window to get a few things sorted.

Worried about Sven gone though and Kroenke’s investment.

 

[Tourbillion]

I’m not sure he can, with our injuries and now a Sokratis ban as well. He needs a summer transfer window to get a few things sorted.

Worried about Sven gone though and Kroenke’s investment.

Both are definitely concerning. I'm not sure we'll make the CL.

 

[Mark Tobias]

I don’t hate Mustafi. Just see him make crucial mistakes week in, week out. Apart from his heading ability, I really think he’s a poor footballer. But that’s just my opinion.

I agree with you Trax. I'm just simply pointing out that the player is so frustrating that even you have listed him in several posts as being a primary contributor to problems in the squad. Or at least the team on the day... You hardly ever do that so Mustafi has seriously irritated our fan base it seems.

 

[Notorious Big]

After bad afternoon,there is always one good ebening

 

[krackpot]

Whyyyyyyy?

Iwobi or Mkhi for Auba would have been enough.

 

[Tir Na Nog]

Another big game tactical masterclass.

 

[Sniper Mik]

After bad afternoon,there is always one good ebening

But after one friendzone why is there always another friendzone around the corner?

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

Really need he keep us great at hope after wenger his bigger test is making us better away he improved us against big teams specially at home

 

[blaze_of_glory]

But after one friendzone why is there always another friendzone around the corner?

It's the same zone I'm afraid. You think you're out but nope.

 

[Tosker]

I’m not sure he can, with our injuries and now a Sokratis ban as well. He needs a summer transfer window to get a few things sorted.

Worried about Sven gone though and Kroenke’s investment.

I'm more worried about Kroenke's lack of investment

 

[OnlyOne]

Our best defensive away performance was probably Sp**s, which had a back line of Kos and Sok, the only other time they started together away was West Ham. They are vital for this Europa run.

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

Hope he kicked the teeth out of Lacazette and Aubameyang after the game and told them they wont get them back until they start scoring again.

 

[Beksl]

Hope he kicked the teeth out of Lacazette and Aubameyang after the game and told them they wont get them back until they start scoring again.

Agree, we should play Nketiah instead!

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

Agree, we should play Nketiah instead!

He would at least not have done anything worse thsn laca and auba... Glad youre coming around.