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we need to buy another class primary striker

AFCG7

Established Member
We cant go for Torres..wouldnt make sense.. we'd then have Reyes Henry Torres and Van Persie who was brought in as a front man.. how would we keep all those happy..only two can play.
We have to look for someone who will have to accept being on the bench from time to time... While idont know who that someon could be i know Torres wont join us to sit on the bench.
 
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Anonymous

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pome said:
i doubt wenger will spend 14 or 18 mill on one player its not his style


its wenger achiles heel. is stubburness is buying high quality player

thats why vieria wants out

we need another quality striker for years.

i cannot see reyes chipping in 15-20+ goals
 

efurze

Active Member
merson said:
pome said:
i doubt wenger will spend 14 or 18 mill on one player its not his style

its wenger achiles heel. is stubburness is buying high quality player

Wrong. Wenger always buys high quality players, he just doesn't pay high quality prices.

It's not stubborness, it's called fiscal responsibility and spending within one's means. He is an intelligent person who manages for both the present and the future, with an intimate knowledge of what the club needs and can afford.
 

arsenal4life

Active Member
we need a back up striker
not a frist team striker
we will play with Henry and Reyes regularly and this is great really
one left footed and the second is right

we have Bergkamp who doesn't fly

we need some one who accept to saty on bench and perform well when come from bench

Angulo or Govou would be great

but really i hope one of Battie or Forssell or Carlton Cole or Pablo Angel
this would be pretty awesome
 

tox

Active Member
I would much prefer a CB or CM to a striker. With Reyes and Bergkamp both looking good and Van persie and freddie to fill in i think are strike force looks better than last season. In defnce if either cygan or toure get injured there will be a gaping whole which i doubt the inexperienced senderos will be able to fill straight away. Ideally with the 'vieira money' we would spend all of it on a class cm or half half on a cm and a cb. I would say upfront is where we look strongest.
 
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Anonymous

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Andrew said:
We apparently had this problem last year as well. Nothing to worry about.


We were so so lucky with injuries last season. Henry played 37 out of 38 league games. I would be amazed if he does that again.

He only has to be out injured for a Euro away game which Dennis would also miss, and then we are looking a bit toothless up front.
 

CloudWalker

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nnaife said:
CloudWalker said:
We have 4 fully fit strikers - Henry, Bergkamp, Reyes and VanPersie
plus
arturo Lupoli and Ali (back in 3 mths)
plus
Ljungberg
plus
Quincy

Why do we need to buy if they are just going to sit on the bench :?:


Henry and Reyes are primary strikers we need a third given the vast volume of games and possible injury crisises.

RVP plays LM or just behind the strikers he isnt a prolific out and out striker he's a cross between Pires and Bergkamp.

Ljungberg isnt a striker sorry to say so but he is a right midfielder always was and always will be. You don't solve a puzzle by placing a cube and a circular slot.

A striker is a specialist position and usually requires a player with more talent the the rest.

Quincy well if he was any good would be pushing Ali for the first team.

Arturo Lupoli is on ascholarship he isnt ready for the premiership if he's any good then he'll make it but in a couple of years time a least.

It's never a bad thing to have lots of options in the striking department besides it keeps everyone on their toes.

We have 2 in each position, no injury - why worry?

Ljungberg can play as striker if we are really desperate bcos of injuries but at the moment we have no prob, the squad apart from Vieira, Ali and Sol is at full strength.

We should not have too many players if we can't keep them motivated and happy by giving them a chance to play.

The point is we do have backup, and we DO have a backup's backup - hey they are not the best but then Arsenal ain't printing money, that's the Bank of England's job :D
Who knows, RVP and Ali(when back) will shine when call upon and that'll be more interesting; some fans have been screaming for my youth players to break in the team, well not overloading ur playing staff with too many fringe players is the 1st step.

so dun worry and place more trust in our team, in fact Arsène going to have a headache bcos everyone except Ali is fit; Henry is a sure pick; Bergie's showed that he is still the magician with his feet and Reyes is on fire plus we have an improving RVP raring to get in !

THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT
 

A.M.A.G.

Active Member
Some one said something about goals win games... well, not if you're conceding at the other end... defense is a greater priority... defense wins championships... with a strong defense... the greater likelihood you'll walk away with something rather than nothing...

Merson: "i cannot see reyes chipping in 15-20+ goals."

Does he need to? He's supposed to be here to ease the goal-scoring burden off Henry... in any event i'm going to say its unlikely that you are going to have your two main strikers have 20+ goals in the same season... possible but not probable... the best thing about Reyes I think, or rather hope, is that he will be just as much a handful as Henry is for defenders... this means that teams won't be able to focus as much attention as they would like on either player... which ... opens up possibilities for teams just getting ripped apart... Hopefully everything goes well this season...

One friend of mine, a Milan fan, was watching the Community Shield game by my place... the word he used to describe how Arsenal was playing... simply "scary" :twisted: i almost blushed :eek:ops: [which isn't possible due to my high melanin cound]... but it felt like a personal compliment :mrgreen:

:twisted: scary scary Arsenal :twisted:
 

nnaife

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OK look here's the argument for needing another "quality" striker and its a very solid one.

We are challenging for 4 possible throphies, but we are also looking to retaining our league title while remaining fresh enough to seriously mount a strong challenge for the champions league.

All our opponents in these competitions have strengthened their squads immensily.

We are the team to beat domestically, that means every team in the EPL will play at their damn best to beat us.

Thats a hellva lot of highly competative matches.

We are almost resigned to losing our captain who was most probably the cornerstone on which our recent successes were hinged upon.

We can't replace him a player of equal ability in that area but we can buy a player of comparative ability in another area of the squad.

Henry and Pires's goals were the main reason for us winning the title last year. Henry scored over 30 goals in all competitions which the difference between us and alot of teams.

It was a bloody miracle that he survived the entire season virtually unscathed.

If he had been injured wenger would have been stuck for possible answers.

This season Henry already has injuries and a lingering back problem that will progressive worsen during the course of a hard campagin.

Ok we've got Reyes to shoulder the burden but he's still very young and has never before scored as many goals as henry does. Besides he's still growing we don't want to burn him out in his first full season.
Forget the charity shield that wasn't the real United.

RVP is has just come into the team and he will probably be challenging Pires on the left midfield or deputising for Bergkamp in the CL away games can you honestly rely on him to score consistantly in a new league and the CL. He needs time.
Look at last season everyone complained that henry wasn't up for the big matches, after he had played magnificently in nearly every arsenal match before. I think he absolutely was exhausted as wenger had no other match winning striking options.
I believe we faltered in our bid for the triple due to exhaustion amongst our first 11.

There easily enough top games be keep three top class strikers happy.

It now becomes clear if we are to maintain a strong challenge in the major competitions we need another world class shooter to shoulder the burden, and we shouldn't be afraid to enlist the best available player if we can.

Torres, Rooney or whom ever it is Arsenal need to buy big when we can.
 

Gooner_Milton

Active Member
Sorry mate, all the players you listed (Torres, Rooney etc.) are all way out of our bracket.

Sevilla sold us Reyes because they needed the money badly. I doubt Atletico Madrid will part with Torres easily and Rooney is way too expensive, he'll probably go to Manure or Chelski anyhow.

What we need is an experienced CM (pending a Vieira departure) or CD more than anything else, not more strikers.

Henry, Reyes, Bergkamp, RVP will do just fine.

The whole argument about us being weaker because of Wiltord/Kanu leaving just doesn't cut it for me. Tell me honestly, how many goals did the combined two scored last season or better yet, how many games collectively did they even start?

And don't even start on Jeffers.

We're fine as it is.
 

juz7_pi12es

Well-Known Member
for me, lupoli already is a quality striker! but go ahead! buy a proven one because i'll be nothing but pleased!
 

efurze

Active Member
What the hell is wrong with you people? Doesn't the concept of 'limited resources' mean anything to you?

The issue isn't whether another striker would be welcome. Of course he would! So would Zidane, or Nesta, or Kaka, or Ronalinho. The issue is whether it would be prudent to buy one.

Buying someone like Torres or Rooney would be galactically, mind-numbingly, abortively stupid. The reason the club is in such a good position NOW (financially, competitively, talent-wise AND with a new stadium ready) is because Wenger didn't make ill-concieved purchases like this 8 years ago!

If Paddy goes, we spend the money on his replacement, on another RB/CB and maybe on a cheap cover striker - no more than a few million on either of the latter 2.
 

nnaife

Active Member
well we could afford another world class player with vieira money so why not a striker. we are losing a world class player, that makes us weaker.

If there was a cm of paddy's ability that was available i'd say buy him but there isnt so we need to look at rebalancing our strength in another area of the team.

We have bought cheap cover strikers before and they have been ****e.
Most top challenging CL teams have three top class strikers.
Bergkamp doesnt fly and doesnt score any more.
 

Gooner_Milton

Active Member
Most top CL teams have ONE top class striker or at most two.

Teams that have three usually end up bankrupt pretty soon or are either Chelski or Real Madrid.

We're lucky in the sense that Henry, Reyes and Bergkamp are all top class.

That said who's to say we cannot replace Vieira with someone of similar or dare I say better quality? The man is already 28 and the rules of probability have it so that another player of his calibre should come along shortly. The money we might spend on securing yet another striker would be better spent finding and securing the next 'Vieira' type player.

Bearing AW's track record of finding great players in regard, I have the utmost confidence that if he puts his mind to it, this is merely an inevitability.
 

tox

Active Member
Just because Bergkamp doesn't fly and score doesn't mean hes not top class. When he doesn't fly, we still have Reyes Henry Van Persie Freddie and Pires who can all play a role upfront.
 

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