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Why the **** rivalry?
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Glass_Heart
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fizifasz said:
Well i'm from Singapore,
to a certain extent, what you said is indeed true.
Luckily not for me though. I started supporting Arsenal when Dennis Berkhamp arrived in 1995. (WOW i have been a gooner for 1 decade ++
) And what was the first thing i learned about this club? Hate Sp**s with a passion. Shameful to say though, during that point of time, i didn't bother to find out the real reasons on why we should hate Sp**s (other than that spuds are in close proximity to us) and i just jump on the bandwagon.
However, as years passed us by, those scums are getting less and less of a threat and emphasis in Asia, at least in Singapore for gunner fans, were to focus our hatred on Myoo and recently Chelski and Bottom.
But this season, given our mediocrity for much of the season, we are in real danger of losing that much coveted 4th place to no one else but spuds and this has successfully reinvigorate the latent hatred in us again haha.
Last night alone, my fellow gooners (11~16) of us were cheering out so loud not because Arsenal has just clinched a big win, we were literally cheering out hoarse for Newcastle, who convincingly and deservingly beat those scums 3-1
Oh, what a great night it was....i'm starting to believe, perhaps, perhaps this is really our European glory year as we are really starting to gell at the right time and all our rivals are falling apart simultaneously.
the rivalry really started out as just a basic community friendly rivalry that got extremely bitter when our chairman supposively used bribes of some sort to get Arsenal into the newly formed top flight ahead of Tottenham, even though Tottenham finished ahead of us the season before.
Really it's been more fierce since the 80s when we were competing with them more directly and through the prem years as we were dominant while they struggled a bit and always wanted to peg us back but it's not as fierce as the fans make it and it's certainly not as fierce as some rivalries in club football.
little known fact, Arsenal played some friendly "home" matches for troop entertainment purposes at White Hart Lane after Highbury suffered some damage during world war 2.
Really though, putting one over Man United has felt better for me as I don't live in North London and I know a total of one tottenham fan around here so it's hard to really gloat about beating tottenham when they're languishing in 11th place or something
Really it's been more fierce since the 80s when we were competing with them more directly and through the prem years as we were dominant while they struggled a bit and always wanted to peg us back but it's not as fierce as the fans make it and it's certainly not as fierce as some rivalries in club football.
little known fact, Arsenal played some friendly "home" matches for troop entertainment purposes at White Hart Lane after Highbury suffered some damage during world war 2.
Really though, putting one over Man United has felt better for me as I don't live in North London and I know a total of one tottenham fan around here so it's hard to really gloat about beating tottenham when they're languishing in 11th place or something
nidza7
Established Member
Glass_Heart said:
like most of the new generation gooners.
arsenal fan abroad supporting arsenal 4-5 years ago take manu as number one enemy because you always want to beat the best and recently they add chelsea.
ps: is it possible in any family in north london support both clubs?
wife- tottenham
husband- arsenal
brother-tottenham
sister- arsenal
hehhehe
ps: is it possible in any family in north london support both clubs?
wife- tottenham
husband- arsenal
brother-tottenham
sister- arsenal
hehhehe
bojed
AM Resident Joker #1
i started to support arsenal some time ago because i like the cannon on the flag...
you can destroy any stadium with one of those...
you can destroy any stadium with one of those...
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YeahBee
Terrible hot takes
RocktheCasbah said:
I would still follow Arsenal because I don't follow any other team, sure I follow my local team but that is an amatuer side. I have followed Arsenal nearly half of my life so I wouldn't stop. I am old enough now to realise that succes, players and style of play goes in cycles. If there was a team that played as entertaining as Arsenal can I would watch them and be intressed, but not care as much, like I also watch Barcelona and I want them to win when I do, but I don't care as much when they don't. and I don't have constant moodswings about everything related to Barca as I do Arsenal.
I should have written we started to support Arsenal based on...
kashif_wattoo
Active Member
fizifasz said:
Hey, i live in Asia and I knew all about our rivalry with T.Scums. For those in search of more answers, here is a link with some good essays about Arsenal History:
http://www.emiratesstadium.info/
cheers...
kashif_wattoo
Active Member
Furthermore....
I dont' really HATE Spuds, like a local North London Gooner does, but yeah, they do irritate me alot, especially this year when we are direct rivals after a looooong time!!!
Do check the link given above, the essays about Arsenal's move to Highbury and How Arsenal got promoted is really interesting...well i think its true!!!
Any senior member to confirm its authenticity, incuding mods???
here is the link again:
http://www.emiratesstadium.info/
I dont' really HATE Spuds, like a local North London Gooner does, but yeah, they do irritate me alot, especially this year when we are direct rivals after a looooong time!!!
Do check the link given above, the essays about Arsenal's move to Highbury and How Arsenal got promoted is really interesting...well i think its true!!!
Any senior member to confirm its authenticity, incuding mods???
here is the link again:
http://www.emiratesstadium.info/
cubbz_th14
Well-Known Member
14teranga said:
well they dont call themselves tottenham just for the heck of it
Biggus
Established Member
RocktheCasbah said:
Gloryhunting may be the reason people are originally attracted to a club, but the loyaller ones will stick around. I myself as an 8yo jumped on the Arsenal bandwagon after the 1971 double :wink: ....Being attracted to success is normal. If your Kid was looking for a team to support suddenly professed an admiration for all the good work Curbishley has done at Charlton, you'd be checking to see if he had any imaginary friends. :? ...
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YeahBee
Terrible hot takes
nidza7 said:Glass_Heart said:
like most of the new generation gooners.
not a bad way or what?
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YeahBee
Terrible hot takes
bojed said:
LoL really? are you a yank with a gun-fetish?
1970*Gooner
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Country: Wales
Player:Rice
I like this reason, and I'm sure I seen that film where he had that top on. :thumbuppha2er said:
f4evo
Well-Known Member
Biggus said:cubbz_th14 said:fizifasz said:
"Main ****" .. i like that
:idea: Maybe someone with a mathematical brain might create a **** index wherebye the scummyness of a club might be calculated.
They would get a number of points for......
* Geographical proximity.
* Close rivalry for trophies.
* Having criminal connections.
* Despised players X their number.
* Having thuggish, racist, or stupid followers.
* Damage they have inflicted on Arsenal in the past.
* Having irritating management.
It could be revised yearly. This would solve our dilemma over who is the scummiest of them all. 8)
Totten.ham
* Geographical proximity. - 10/10
* Close rivalry for trophies. - 0/10
* Having criminal connections. 10/10
* Despised players X their number. max points
* Having thuggish, racist, or stupid followers. 10/10
* Damage they have inflicted on Arsenal in the past. 0/10
* Having irritating management. 5/10
Manc
* Geographical proximity. 3/10
* Close rivalry for trophies. 9/10
* Having criminal connections. 10/10
* Despised players X their number. max points
* Having thuggish, racist, or stupid followers. 10/10
* Damage they have inflicted on Arsenal in the past. 9/10
* Having irritating management. 10/10
Chavski
* Geographical proximity. - 10/10
* Close rivalry for trophies. - 3/10
* Having criminal connections. 20/10
* Despised players X their number. max points
* Having thuggish, racist, or stupid followers. 10/10
* Damage they have inflicted on Arsenal in the past. 7/10
* Having irritating management. 20/10
Bolton
* Geographical proximity. 3/10
* Close rivalry for trophies. 0/10
* Having criminal connections. 10/10
* Despised players X their number. max points
* Having thuggish, racist, or stupid followers. 20/10
* Damage they have inflicted on Arsenal in the past. 8/10
* Having irritating management. 20/10
1.Manc
2. ****
= Chav
3. Bolton
Octavio - gunner
Active Member
I'm mexican and lived in Mexico for 26 years, I've been an Arsenal follower for 14 years now, and I started following them because of the way they gave everything in the pitch, and at 12-13 I didn't know about any rivalry, just wanted to beat everyone and hated to see us loose with Manu, so started to hate manu (and still do) I didn't know about internet then so how was I supposed to know about any rivalry?? Besides if we loose to Sp**s non of my friends will care, if we loose to Manu or recently chelski I know about 5 or 6 people who will laugh soo long at me, then at 15 I went to london for the first time and talking with an old arsenal fan (he was our guide in london, so I had to ask who he supported) he told me about the rivalry with Sp**s, so I realized if I was going to be a true arsenal fan I had to hate them, so now I do. But to be honest it is not a world known rivalry like Madrid-Barca or Inter-Milan, even in Foxsports and ESPN they talk more about the rivalry with Manu than Sp**s.
I'm getting tired of this "gloryhunters those foreigners who became fans just for succes or nice football" Who the **** cares why anyone starts supporting Arsenal if he becomes a true loyal fan? I just spent 30 pounds in an arsenal DVD and have spent near 200 pounds (that's a lot of money for me) in arsenal's kits and a lot of time reading and writing here as for anyone to say foreigners are not as good fans as locals... so what then? if a london fan moves to Manchester he will become a manure fan? ridiculous... so please stop it already.
I'm getting tired of this "gloryhunters those foreigners who became fans just for succes or nice football" Who the **** cares why anyone starts supporting Arsenal if he becomes a true loyal fan? I just spent 30 pounds in an arsenal DVD and have spent near 200 pounds (that's a lot of money for me) in arsenal's kits and a lot of time reading and writing here as for anyone to say foreigners are not as good fans as locals... so what then? if a london fan moves to Manchester he will become a manure fan? ridiculous... so please stop it already.
RockyRocastle
Established Member
I just cant get my head around Arsenal fans saying that dont hate tottenham, regardless of where you come from.
It is not an optional extra in supporting Arsenal.
They are the enemy, always have been and always will be. Anyone who doesnt, I cant take seriously.
I know foreign gooners dont have to experience dodgeing bricks and bottles thrown from the corner pin and seeing dads with their sons getting picked off on the high road but still.
roberts, mabbut, justin ****ing edinburgh, nayim, fat pikey keane with his gay celebration and **** of ****s sheringham.
There are a few reasons to hate them for a start.
It is not an optional extra in supporting Arsenal.
They are the enemy, always have been and always will be. Anyone who doesnt, I cant take seriously.
I know foreign gooners dont have to experience dodgeing bricks and bottles thrown from the corner pin and seeing dads with their sons getting picked off on the high road but still.
roberts, mabbut, justin ****ing edinburgh, nayim, fat pikey keane with his gay celebration and **** of ****s sheringham.
There are a few reasons to hate them for a start.
