Arsène Wenger: Same Old Class

[North5]

Laughing stock.

 

[Ceballinhos]

Yeah, true. I guess most us would love for us to play some sexy football again but for me as well its important we focus on results first for now.

Allegri for that reason would be a great choice if Wenger leaves. He gets results, is pragmatic, brave and unconventional as well as highly experienced with pressure. He could give us very strong foundations on top of what Wenger would leave behind.

Actually, I'm pretty happy that we get linked to Allegri frequently because I had this vision some time ago- Allegri for 3 to 5 years and then Montella(plays sexy footy) for the next 3 to 5 years. Gazidis spoke of following the Bayern way. That sort of planning, team building and management choices is what has built this monster of a club.

But we're nowhere near Bayern.
When they got trashed by one of the best Barcelona side in history in 2009 (5-1 on agreggate) they've said "Never again, this result is unacceptable".
They've built back their club in 3 years to become one of the most powerful team in Europe.

But we haven't seen anyone speaking about yesterday humiliation. Wenger blames the referee.

Spoiler: That's what Klinsmann have said after they got destroyed by Barcelona

“From my point of view, the match was a great disappointment,” he told uefa.com after the game.

“It is difficult to explain. The key was to fight for every ball but two goals early in the game did a lot of damage and we did not fight hard enough.

“We need to overcome the criticism. It is a very hard defeat and difficult to digest.”

But the former German international striker also credited and heaped praise on Bayern's opponents.

“Barcelona played very well and showed our limitations. It is quite possible that we have just played against the future champions of Europe,” he said. “[Lionel] Messi is a great player and it’s a pleasure to see him playing.

“We want to be among the four best teams in Europe but we have a lot of improving to do. It is very difficult to compensate for the absences of important players like Lucio, [Daniel] van Buyten and [Philipp] Lahm.

“Now, we must concentrate on the fight for the Bundesliga title and ensure we are in the Champions League again next season.”

Spoiler: And beckenbauer...

“What I saw in the first half was without a doubt the worst football Bayern have played in their entire history,” he said after the match.

“It was an exhibition. Almost a humiliation. Barcelona gave us a lesson in football.”

Die Roten chairman Karl-Heinze Rummenigge, meanwhile, refused to comment on the future of under-fire coach Jurgen Klinsmann but instead rallied his side to bounce back on the domestic front.

“We have no chance in the Champions League now, that is obvious,” he boomed.

See the difference?

 

[Mark Tobias]

This game should have been a win if the referee did not screw is over like in the Barcelona game a few years back but people are no longer objective and not worth taking to to be honest.

We were true the better team

It is utter delusion like this that fuels Wenger's ego. JUST **** OFF!

 

[GDeep™]

I do miss the football we used to play more than I thought I would tbh. I'd love our future success to built on that, but it has to have a foundation just like the one Graham laid and Wenger benefited from when he arrived here, and if that means brutalising our way to a title first, I'll take it.

Graham signed Vieira and Petit? That partnerships won us the title, everyone from back then openly say so.

 

[GDeep™]

It is utter delusion like this that fuels Wenger's ego. JUST **** OFF!

Just **** off? Bit rude.

 

[Hunter Zolomon]

But we're nowhere near Bayern.
When they got trashed by one of the best Barcelona side in history in 2009 (5-1 on agreggate) they've said "Never again, this result is unacceptable".
They've built back their club in 3 years to become one of the most powerful team in Europe.

But we haven't seen anyone speaking about yesterday humiliation. Wenger blames the referee.

Spoiler: That's what Klinsmann have said after they got destroyed by Barcelona

“From my point of view, the match was a great disappointment,” he told uefa.com after the game.

“It is difficult to explain. The key was to fight for every ball but two goals early in the game did a lot of damage and we did not fight hard enough.

“We need to overcome the criticism. It is a very hard defeat and difficult to digest.”

But the former German international striker also credited and heaped praise on Bayern's opponents.

“Barcelona played very well and showed our limitations. It is quite possible that we have just played against the future champions of Europe,” he said. “[Lionel] Messi is a great player and it’s a pleasure to see him playing.

“We want to be among the four best teams in Europe but we have a lot of improving to do. It is very difficult to compensate for the absences of important players like Lucio, [Daniel] van Buyten and [Philipp] Lahm.

“Now, we must concentrate on the fight for the Bundesliga title and ensure we are in the Champions League again next season.”

See the difference?

Best post so far and no amount of arguments about squad costs can refute that.

 

[El Duderino]

It's beyond a joke, reading back one of Gazidis' comments that the fans will ultimately decide upon Wenger's future.

How unbelievably thick and cowardly is that?
What is he getting paid for, if those that are paying (the fans) are to decide the future of the manager, when it all comes down to meeting tragets, evaluating success, honoring or criticizing his performance - a job the Board Members are there to do and paid to.

What the f...?

"We can compete with Bayern on a financial level" Hard to take him seriously when we all know that what comes out of his mouth is straight from a Linkedin profile or a Powerpoint presentation. Specially with that accent of his. You know, the American who's trying REALLY hard no to sound like a brit (but we all know he's actually trying to sound like one).

 

[A_G]

It is utter delusion like this that fuels Wenger's ego. JUST **** OFF!

No need for that tbh.

 

[BBF]

3 league titles and 1 CL final in 21 years is shocking to be honest.

I'm starting to question whether he deserves that statue.

 

[Hunta]

I'm starting to question whether he deserves that statue.

Only ones who do are Adams and Bergkamp. Henry isn't deserving of one, been thinking about that for a while.

 

[BBF]

Only ones who do are Adams and Bergkamp. Henry isn't deserving of one, been thinking about that for a while.

100%

 

[SuperGoon]

David Dein too, tbf.

 

[BBF]

It's all about squad cost boys...

Arsenal - £332m
Bayern - £312m

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

3 league titles and 1 CL final in 21 years is shocking to be honest.

It is a good record for 2nd tier team in the England and 3rd tier club in Europe.

Arsenal is just Premier League counterpart to Valencia in La Liga.

 

[Jury]

Graham signed Vieira and Petit? That partnerships won us the title, everyone from back then openly say so.

The foundation was the back 5 and their attitude. That rubbed off on the new guys. That's well documented.

Of course we wouldn't have won titles without Wengers additions, but the foundation was already in place. That is undeniable.

 

[Sanchez11]

Is he still here? Not even an apology from the club? Pathetic!!

 

[CaseUteinberger]

Just **** off? Bit rude.

Unfortunately true though... Don't think we need to insult each other but I'd subscribe to the delusional part. How we can lose 1-5 and then come out complaining about the referee. Struggle to find any other term to describe that,

 

[mm76]

How we can lose 1-5 and then come out complaining about the referee.

well both things are true - the ref had a shocker and did things that were totally in Bayern's favour, but that then exposed our own lack of leadership and resilience

or more simply, the ref caused us to show how cr*p we can be...

 

[Sapient Hawk]

It is a good record for 2nd tier team in the England and 3rd tier club in Europe.

Arsenal is just Premier League counterpart to Valencia in La Liga.

You do the Valencia of old a great disservice. They reached 2 champions league finals back to back with a squad that, for all it's flair & technical ability, was not a patch on our side at the time.

Yet they did the feat I just mentioned on meager funds compared to the two behemoths who occupy the top two spots whilst we had to sacrifice our usual style for one that seemed avante garde for both Arsenal & Arsène at the time. What do we have to show for it? 1 final appearance in 20 under his reign. Catastrophic.

 

[CaseUteinberger]

well both things are true - the ref had a shocker and did things that were totally in Bayern's favour, but that then exposed our own lack of leadership and resilience

or more simply, the ref caused us to show how cr*p we can be...

Only problem it isn't very relevant. Yes, it happened in the same game, but that is about it. It's like beating up your wife and then in front of the judge in your defence bringing up her poor cooking. Yes, both topics involve your wife but that is about it. We did not lose three times in a row 5-1 to Bayern because of the refs, injuries to Kos etc. etc. The real problem is Wenger and the board. Period! Let's not reach for straws.