Arsène Wenger: Same Old Class

[4R5Emaniac]

It's beyond a joke, reading back one of Gazidis' comments that the fans will ultimately decide upon Wenger's future.

How unbelievably thick and cowardly is that?
What is he getting paid for, if those that are paying (the fans) are to decide the future of the manager, when it all comes down to meeting tragets, evaluating success, honoring or criticizing his performance - a job the Board Members are there to do and paid to.

What the f...?

He is too busy following twitter and posting gifs and memes in Arsenal-Mania to bother about something so trivial as doing your job.

 

[Jasard]

I, for one, would be over the moon if I saw a team with decent work rate, effort and passion.

Witnessing that from time to time would be much appreciated.

Or at least once a month.

Jesus Christ.....

Learning from mistakes and some determination and self belief would go a long long way. The talent is there... 2-10 makes us look a million miles from the likes of Bayern when in reality not even that much needs to be fixed it's just the same issues have been there for a decade so obviously won't be fixed.

The players have been overprotected, have no accountability and feel no threat to their position in the team. Ironically, if Wenger didnt mollycoddle them so much they wouldn't have these weird psychological problems.

It's such a frustrating situation, Wenger could easily fix things himself if he was less stubborn in his ways.

 

[Vinci]

Not sure how George Graham got involved in this. That was a different era and it's totally irrelevant to how we move forward.

One can even wonder how relevant the way we played under Wenger is to how we move forward. Yes, played. We used to play great football and that's still the image many people who don't intensively follow the club have, but truthfully we haven't consistently played great football in a long time now.

Personally I think we just need to get with the times. Whether that is defensive, attacking or something in between is irrelevant. We need someone who knows how to put a strong, balanced side out, can make smart tactical adjustments, prepares the team mentally and improves and gets the most out of the players.

 

[Hunta]

3 league titles and 1 CL final in 21 years is shocking to be honest.

 

[rich 1990]

I'm getting sick of ****** like you bringing up his wage. 20 years of good work lead up to that 8m a year, you bellend.

Someone called him a dictator, others are swearing and cursing at him and you pick up on this? Even if he was pushing for titles and doing Ok in Europe, his wages would be a disgrace.

 

[SuperGoon]

Don't know how people are still arguing this. Incredibly repetitive from both camps at this stage.

 

[Jury]

I, for one, would be over the moon if I saw a team with decent work rate, effort and passion.

Witnessing that from time to time would be much appreciated.

Or at least once a month.

Jesus Christ.....

I do miss the football we used to play more than I thought I would tbh. I'd love our future success to built on that, but it has to have a foundation just like the one Graham laid and Wenger benefited from when he arrived here, and if that means brutalising our way to a title first, I'll take it.

 

[CaseUteinberger]

Was checking the names of the 77 who still want another 2-3 years of this and are still voting Yes in the poll. Wonder what it will take to make the 77 remaining to change their minds? Is there a line which cannot be crossed (out of top 4, mid table, relegation threatened, relegated)?

Clearly the results and Wenger's work still is impressive enough for them to remain in favour of more of last night as it will not go away. We have the same situation every year, which clearly then must be enough. I am honestly just wondering what it will take to change their minds. I am just baffled. Would be interesting to hear if there is some line that cannot be crossed.

 

[Sapient Hawk]

It's easy to dehumanize the prawn sandwich people as soulless bourgeoisies who just want a nice day out, but ultimately I find it hard to believe even they could enjoy watching the current Arsenal. Your Chelsea and Sp**s are constantly improving, will have more star power than us once Sanchez/Özil leaves us, if you don't care about supporting the club then why would you want to watch Arsenal FC play rather than Chelsea and Sp**s?

Well said. But that conflict of spirit isn't for any of us here, we're with this club through thick & the (as our current state suggests) quite disheaterningly thin. If there're those for whom loyalty is cheap, they're free to support either variety of evil.

All things are cyclical & Arsenal will prosper once again under a management that's as bold in it's approach as it is innovative.

 

[bingobob]

I, for one, would be over the moon if I saw a team with decent work rate, effort and passion.

Witnessing that from time to time would be much appreciated.

Or at least once a month.

Jesus Christ.....

Here here. I'm a big fan of those often under valued traits.

Passion is one of the few things that can unite a football fan with the modern day multi millionaire living in a bubble football player. The Ox in that regard has been thoroughly refreshing recently. Seems like he cares.

 

[juice man]

Seriously, Wenger was pointing at the first half, and rightfully so. We were indeed good in that half, up to the 50th minute in fact.

I see a lot of people bringing this up. Almost as some sort of consolation or partial defence of the players and manager. A decent 45 minute shift is not good enough. In fact, its the exact reason we can't compete for the CL and league title.

 

[FreakySami]

This game should have been a win if the referee did not screw is over like in the Barcelona game a few years back but people are no longer objective and not worth taking to to be honest.

We were true the better team

 

[bingobob]

This game should have been a win if the referee did not screw is over like in the Barcelona game a few years back but people are no longer objective and not worth taking to to be honest.

We were true the better team

Frightening that you believe that. The better team doesn't lose 5 - 1 on the night. The game was gone once they went two one up and if we shut up shop like any normal team you may have a leg to stand on. We were destroyed in the worst way. Pumped, leaderless and tactically inept in the second half. A good summary of Wenger's recent past.

 

[Preacher]

find the differences, too similar.

 

[Gooner Zig]

It's beyond a joke, reading back one of Gazidis' comments that the fans will ultimately decide upon Wenger's future.

How unbelievably thick and cowardly is that?
What is he getting paid for, if those that are paying (the fans) are to decide the future of the manager, when it all comes down to meeting tragets, evaluating success, honoring or criticizing his performance - a job the Board Members are there to do and paid to.

What the f...?

Arseblog called it one of the worst comments he's ever heard from a CEO and I agree wholeheartedly with him.

It's so spineless and cowardly it's actually beyond comprehension. That the board think that they can abdicate their responsibility of actually, you know, running this ****ing club like a proper professional sports team is just...there aren't any words really.

 

[redwhiteAustrian]

I see a lot of people bringing this up. Almost as some sort of consolation or partial defence of the players and manager. A decent 45 minute shift is not good enough. In fact, its the exact reason we can't compete for the CL and league title.

Because it's a fact. No one said it was good enough, of course it isn't. You'll never win anything if you only perform at 50% (elections aside).

 

[Ceballinhos]

We don't have a board.
They don't even care.

I'm very scared of what will happens when Wenger leaves even if it's so bad ATM.

 

[4R5Emaniac]

I do miss the football we used to play more than I thought I would tbh. I'd love our future success to built on that, but it has to have a foundation just like the one Graham laid and Wenger benefited from when he arrived here, and if that means brutalising our way to a title first, I'll take it.

Yeah, true. I guess most us would love for us to play some sexy football again but for me as well its important we focus on results first for now.

Allegri for that reason would be a great choice if Wenger leaves. He gets results, is pragmatic, brave and unconventional as well as highly experienced with pressure. He could give us very strong foundations on top of what Wenger would leave behind.

Actually, I'm pretty happy that we get linked to Allegri frequently because I had this vision some time ago- Allegri for 3 to 5 years and then Montella(plays sexy footy) for the next 3 to 5 years. Gazidis spoke of following the Bayern way. That sort of planning, team building and management choices is what has built this monster of a club.

 

[tap-in]

The first 50 mins last night were great, possibly the best football we've played all season. That doesn't change the fact that we lost this tie in the first game with an awful set up and performance. Why play 4-4-2 away from home against one of the best teams in Europe, it made no sense at all.

 

[tap-in]

We don't have a board.
They don't even care.

I'm very scared of what will happens when Wenger leaves even if it's so bad ATM.

The board will start to care when we don't finish top 4. That's when the money coming in and the share value, drops!