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@Makingtrax Off the top of your head, can you think of one big piece good fortune we've had this season? I.e, players lucky to not get a red, a dodgy pen in our favour or offside goals?
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PL | Manchester City v Arsenal | 5th November 2017 | 14:15 GMT | Sky Sports
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Fallout
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i'll bet arsenalist.com will have saved all of the contentious decisions as a mini-highlight ... if anyone has the motivation to go through each game and make a compilation of all the decisions for and against
Fallout
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guess i'm wrong ... they have no highlight of Özil handball vs leicester
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BobP
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You could be right, but when things do go against us, it's often in the big games and at decisive moments
Go back to that United game in 04/05 where Rooney dived for a penalty. Or the fact that Ferdinand wasn't given his marching orders for tackling Ljungberg as the last man. Or that CL quarter final against Liverpool where Kuyt basically rugby tackled Hleb in the box only for the referee to not give a penalty. Didn't stop him from giving a penalty to Liverpool after Babel dived. How about RVP's red card against Barca in 2010/2011, or the fact that Abidal was going around throttling Arsenal players in that with no consequences.
And these are just off the top of my head.
My point is that it is truly staggering the number of times we've been shafted by the officials at critical moments in big games.
BobP
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That's on Rodriguez though, if he'd stayed down, he'd have no doubt been awarded a penalty.
Should have scored from that situation regardless.
As a fan, I feel we're in such a lose-lose situation atm. Realistically, our best chances at silverware are through the cups but that's not enough for me and it'd give the club an excuse to keep managing itself in the same way. On the other hand, what would make the club change its ways is complete failure which would be dreadful as we're about to have to replace one or two of our best players, and need something to attract quality replacements.
So either we keep stagnating or we start free-falling. Can anyone envision a realistic scenario in which we start competing at the top level again in the near future?
So either we keep stagnating or we start free-falling. Can anyone envision a realistic scenario in which we start competing at the top level again in the near future?
A Lighter Shade of Blue
Pep Is Bald
We are Manchester City fans, not Etihad fans, and you very, very wrong.
As for silent, not a chance, I was in 115 as always today, South Stand lower, and it was pretty decent. As for the 'means more' comment, wrong again.
It has never been more clear to me that we aren't one of the elite clubs.
A Lighter Shade of Blue
Pep Is Bald
He didn't dive, it was a penalty.Stop defending English players because they dive it's embarrassing and that's why England national team always fail.
When Alexis dives or Suarez we never stop hear about it but when English players dive like Sterling Alli they end up saying he not that type of player
gunnerawz
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He did dive. It wasn't a penalty.
I have often defended Coquelin because he gets a lot of unnecessary stick, but it says a lot when he's the answer we've got to try and nullify our rivals. For me, it is acknowledgement that we can't compete and have to change our identity to have a chance at a point. It's what smaller clubs have to do.
I mean I get that there are tweaks you have to make to outplay bigger clubs, but that lineup was just desperation.
I mean I get that there are tweaks you have to make to outplay bigger clubs, but that lineup was just desperation.
I reckon it was a pen, albeit a soft one. The fact that that call was correct however takes nothing away from the fact that the incorrect offside call unfairly killed the game.
A Lighter Shade of Blue
Pep Is Bald
Not having that, Arsenal absolutely are one of the elite clubs. At the moment. You are, however in danger of losing that, and that will bring it's own problems in regards to signing top class players and being able to step up the ladder again.
I mean it depends on how you define "elite teams". For me, it is the teams competing for the title in a top 5 league in the past 5-10 years, and we just haven't been doing that. We can only hang on to who we were in the early 2000s for so long.
We still are by far one of the best teams in all of Europe, but with how this season is going, how the previous ones have gone, and how our best players are on the way out come this summer, we have a hell of a rebuilding job on our hands. I'm not convinced we'll be able to attract top quality players for that new project, let alone afford them.
A Lighter Shade of Blue
Pep Is Bald
Enjoyed the game today, Arsenal started very well, the first ten minutes you looked really good, it seemed to me like Pep told us to sit and wait and try and work out Arsenal's tactics during that period, then stepped up a gear and passed our way through it.
Had a read through this thread, some great posts, and very interesting comments/observations when ignoring the usual tribal comments (to be expected and applauded).
It absolutely WAS a penalty, and we could/should have had another in the first half when Kolasinac shoved Sterling when in to meet a cross.
The offside goal was laughable, ref's assistant has to spot that, terrible for you.
Wengers post match comments were a disgrace, for a man that has been in his position for so long, to come out with that, was just not on.
We didn't play well today, a lot of that was due to the way you set up against us but de Bruyne/Silva/Sane were all well below par.
As regards Arsenal, the likes of Iwobi, Xhaka, Coquelin should be nowhere near the starting line-up of a club of the stature of Arsenal, Özil, Ramsey and Sanchez were not up to scratch too, during this game.
Thought Koscielny was outstanding for you, I'd certainly swap him for Otamendi, although Nicolas has been doing well this season.
Great to see manyoo getting beat too, all in all, a very good day at the office.
Had a read through this thread, some great posts, and very interesting comments/observations when ignoring the usual tribal comments (to be expected and applauded).
It absolutely WAS a penalty, and we could/should have had another in the first half when Kolasinac shoved Sterling when in to meet a cross.
The offside goal was laughable, ref's assistant has to spot that, terrible for you.
Wengers post match comments were a disgrace, for a man that has been in his position for so long, to come out with that, was just not on.
We didn't play well today, a lot of that was due to the way you set up against us but de Bruyne/Silva/Sane were all well below par.
As regards Arsenal, the likes of Iwobi, Xhaka, Coquelin should be nowhere near the starting line-up of a club of the stature of Arsenal, Özil, Ramsey and Sanchez were not up to scratch too, during this game.
Thought Koscielny was outstanding for you, I'd certainly swap him for Otamendi, although Nicolas has been doing well this season.
Great to see manyoo getting beat too, all in all, a very good day at the office.
A Lighter Shade of Blue
Pep Is Bald
talk about blinkered, even most of your supporters on here have said it was a pen, get over it.
A Lighter Shade of Blue
Pep Is Bald
Snitches get stitchesThen it's the UEFA Champions League 2017-18 thread in the Football Talk forum.
Here: https://arsenal-mania.com/forum/threads/uefa-champions-league-2017-18.30362/page-79
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