Mesut Özil (Out)

[GDeep™]

Yes. Think it's more ruthless then paying half of his salary to send him on loan, but slightly less ruthless then letting him rot.

How is it more ruthless? You’re accepting defeat and no head of football will accept that, sets a bad precedent.

Özil is bullying Raul here, won’t go on loan, won’t be sold, won’t walk away etc despite all the dirty tactics used by Arsenal and that fat slob Raul.

 

[Red London]

The club won’t do it. Of course Özil will take it, he can take the money from us and then go look for a contract elsewhere as he’ll be a free agent. Nice cash grab for him personally.

Clubs rarely pay off like this though. Sets a bad precedent too, looks soft.

In some ways it is strong because it’s like “if we don’t like your attitude we will get rid of you”

The only way Raul and co will show they are worthy candidates to lead our club (after this recent ****show) would be to reshuffle the squad and realise that the dynamics of the dressing room is what is causing this. They need to work hard to finance some departures so that Arteta can start to rebuild. We have a good core of young players but we need to bring in slightly more experienced players who are young enough to be hungry.

 

[Red London]

Özil is bullying Raul here, won’t go on loan, won’t be sold, won’t walk away etc despite all the dirty tactics used by Arsenal and that fat slob Raul.

Yeh maybe he is bullying the club, but he’s also damaging his legacy to be honest.

Maybe not to someone like you but to a lot of people.

 

[GDeep™]

In some ways it is strong because it’s like “if we don’t like your attitude we will get rid of you”

Nah, it’s a defeat for Raul, but also a potential precedence for the future.

There is a reason why clubs never pay off big deals like this.

 

[Red London]

Nah, it’s a defeat for Raul, but also a potential precedence for the future.

There is a reason why clubs never pay off big deals like this.

I don’t see it as a defeat. At the end of the day he didn’t sign Özil on and once a player is under contract they have all the freedom in the world to stay under that contract.

Özil had all the power in the world the second we have him £350,000 a week.

 

[truth_hurts]

How is it more ruthless? You’re accepting defeat and no head of football will accept that, sets a bad precedent.

Özil is bullying Raul here, won’t go on loan, won’t be sold, won’t walk away etc despite all the dirty tactics used by Arsenal and that fat slob Raul.

Accepting defeat is letting him run down his contract whilst putting in half-hearted performances. 350k a week for him to play fortnight. Özil has nothing to play for i.e. Germany national place or legacy, so he can and has gone into cruise control.

Big **** Raul will have Özil's clothes in bin liners on the street and shout 'Here's a bit of money, don't ever come back here again'. Boss move.

 

[GDeep™]

Yeh maybe he is bullying the club, but he’s also damaging his legacy to be honest.

Maybe not to someone like you but to a lot of people.

His legacy is written. Go on Wikipedia and look at his personal and team honours. His assists record is the best in the history of football.

The story here is that he and his team mates fell off, at a club that fell off too. Other than Auba and Ramsey, no player has performed here for 3 years now.

 

[truth_hurts]

In some ways it is strong because it’s like “if we don’t like your attitude we will get rid of you”

The only way Raul and co will show they are worthy candidates to lead our club (after this recent ****show) would be to reshuffle the squad and realise that the dynamics of the dressing room is what is causing this. They need to work hard to finance some departures so that Arteta can start to rebuild. We have a good core of young players but we need to bring in slightly more experienced players who are young enough to be hungry.

Agree it sends a message. being paid 350k a week to not play sends the wrong message to the rest of the squad. When you've got a kid like Saka or Martinelli running their hearts out for a tiny percentage of what Özil gets, it could damage morale.

Cut the Cancer out of the club: yes, I'm at this stage with Özil.

 

[GDeep™]

I don’t see it as a defeat. At the end of the day he didn’t sign Özil on and once a player is under contract they have all the freedom in the world to stay under that contract.

Özil had all the power in the world the second we have him £350,000 a week.

Doesn’t matter he didn’t sign him. He’s head of football now and tried to get rid of Özil with some slimy tactics and it hasn’t worked.

Paying Özil 12M would be a massive massive loss for Raul. Guys like Josh and Stan won’t sanction such bs anyway

 

[GDeep™]

You guys are wrong. There is a reason why we don’t see more contracts paid off like this. It’s bad business and weak management.

 

[Hjalmaar]

Pointless thread.

- No one will pay him the kind of salary that he's currently on.

- The best deal he can make for himself next is as free agent.

He will 100% be here until his contract ends.

 

[Get These Hands]

Just pay out the rest of his contract and get him out the club.

Getting rid of this lazy fortnite merchant would make my summer.

 

[sdotzdot]

I don’t see why we can’t do what United did with Sanchez and just loan him out paying part of his wages. I’d rather pay 50% for no contribution than 100% for no contribution.

Of course, depends on if Özil agrees and he is a massive fraud and a leech but there is clear friction and dislike on both ends so he might be willing to stop being stubborn to just end this **** rather than have it go on for another year. Here’s hoping.

 

[GoonerJeeves]

Can complain about Özil all we like, but the club has signed the contract, and so there is very little we can do.

 

[samshere]

I don’t see why we can’t do what United did with Sanchez and just loan him out paying part of his wages. I’d rather pay 50% for no contribution than 100% for no contribution.

Of course, depends on if Özil agrees and he is a massive fraud and a leech but there is clear friction and dislike on both ends so he might be willing to stop being stubborn to just end this **** rather than have it go on for another year. Here’s hoping.

50% of his current deal is 150k, do you see anyone paying that? The best someone would pay for him right now is 50k. And frankly for saving that much amount, I'd rather have him in the squad.
And I dont blame him for getting whatever he could out of the club. The club was stupid to let both his and Sanchez's contract run down. If there's a silver lining at least we didn't offer 200k to both him and Sanchez as most wouldve had us done, so that we'd been left at a 400k drain on the clubs resources.

 

[Sanchez11]

Can complain about Özil all we like, but the club has signed the contract, and so there is very little we can do.

Gazidis signed him to that contract and Raul wanted him out straight away.

 

[GDeep™]

Gazidis signed him to that contract and Raul wanted him out straight away.

Arsenal fans wanted it though? We all wanted him to extend and we all wanted the club to start paying massive wages.

The streets were dancing when Özil extended.

 

[Brett]

Arsenal fans wanted it though? We all wanted him to extend and we all wanted the club to start paying massive wages.

The streets were dancing when Özil extended.

The main thing that is frustrating is the club is keeping us in the dark about what is going on.

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

Arsenal fans wanted it though? We all wanted him to extend and we all wanted the club to start paying massive wages.

The streets were dancing when Özil extended.

That's the difference between Gazidis and Wenger. Gazidis was dying to be a legend here and did what the fans asked. There are few forumers here who still jerk off over Gazidis tenure here.

Wenger always took difficult decisions. He wanted to veto the Özil contract. He knew the best.

How he won 3 FA Cups in 4 years in this environment I will never know! Elite!

 

[GDeep™]

The main thing that is frustrating is the club is keeping us in the dark about what is going on.

Yeah, he was playing before Covid. Refused to take a pay cut and now hasn’t kicked a ball.