mm76again...
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Wenger gone I think he's truly had enough
One day the real truth will come out too
You mean the truth that you're an idiot? Sorry mate, that's well and truly out there already
Wenger gone I think he's truly had enough
One day the real truth will come out too
Depends, not sure if this is mock disgust against people who just want him to leave, which I think he should now, or you're talking about specific comments?Wenger has been many things to arsenal but selfish isnt one of them.
He's honoured every contract, he's turned down numerous clubs, he's got champions league constantly for 19 years..
I'm absolutely disgusted with the way some arsenal fans talk about the guy.. He deserves so much better than some of our fans..
I don't care if this forum wants to attack me for these comments..
At least he finally admitted that his contract situation affected the players.
Self inflicted.Cheeky dig at the Board?
Exactly, that's because the fans want to get behind the team. They'll even remain fickle enough to pray that Wenger bangs his head and starts acting something like a football manager again.Good summer and start to next season and most of the hostility is put away.
What the **** is he implying? What do you reckon?Bizarre press-conference.
What the **** is he implying? What do you reckon?
Edit: No worries, he's blaming AFTV. What a c0ck.
Nobody cares that you love the club and will do so forever. You're a johnny-come-lately, Arséne. I'VE loved the club longer and will do so until I die, now **** off.
He's not going anywhere. He decided a long time ago he wanted to stay, that's why he said we'd find out about it "soon". Then he found out the board weren't willing to do anything until the end of the season.I think Wenger will step down after the fa cup final
I will never forgive certain elements of our support that have hounded him out..
If Wenger does go prepare for years without champions league...
I will always be eternally grateful to Arséne for everything he has given to our club..
Don't you mean prepare for years without champions league if wenger stays. This 'careful what you wish for' nonsense has got out of hand. so if we recruited a top manager, we'd spend years out of champs league. don't be sillyI think Wenger will step down after the fa cup final
I will never forgive certain elements of our support that have hounded him out..
If Wenger does go prepare for years without champions league...
I will always be eternally grateful to Arséne for everything he has given to our club..
The bad results started BEFORE the protests and the banners.I think one things for certain, and if it weren't for AFTV and banners etc magnifying bad results etc it wouldn't not help i.e if they didn't exist I actually think it would be positive. So in that sense it is detrimental to a point but not sure how much. Anyone that thinks banners etc and viral videos doesn't affect the players performance in negative times is deluded. It shouldn't. It didn't in the past. But it does now, you can only see how Bellerin was affected. How Ox has it in his mind to come out and say certain things in interviews because he's aware of the situation. He's looking for external factors but I'd say if he had the full support of the fans, no banners, no viral AFTV videos after poor performances, we'd probably be higher up the table.
Also, I dont know how you came to the conclusion he's blaming AFTV but he could be talking about his contract situation or signings he wanted, or players throwing in the towel. God knows....
He commented on the 'negativity in the stadium', which a lot of people--you included , as it turns out--blame AFTV for. They're the ones who do the banners, aren't they?I think one things for certain, and if it weren't for AFTV and banners etc magnifying bad results etc it wouldn't not help i.e if they didn't exist I actually think it would be positive. So in that sense it is detrimental to a point but not sure how much. Anyone that thinks banners etc and viral videos doesn't affect the players performance in negative times is deluded. It shouldn't. It didn't in the past. But it does now, you can only see how Bellerin was affected. How Ox has it in his mind to come out and say certain things in interviews because he's aware of the situation. He's looking for external factors but I'd say if he had the full support of the fans, no banners, no viral AFTV videos after poor performances, we'd probably be higher up the table.
Also, I dont know how you came to the conclusion he's blaming AFTV but he could be talking about his contract situation or signings he wanted, or players throwing in the towel. God knows....
What the **** is he implying? What do you reckon?
Edit: No worries, he's blaming AFTV. What a c0ck.
Nobody cares that you love the club and will do so forever. You're a johnny-come-lately, Arséne. I'VE loved the club longer and will do so until I die, now **** off.
It won't be. It might be temporarily suppressed. Things have been getting steadily worse season on season for the last few years. There was fighting in the stands last season for a game, it spiralled more this season as the whole Wenger debate intensified.Good summer and start to next season and most of the hostility is put away.
He's not going anywhere. He decided a long time ago he wanted to stay, that's why he said we'd find out about it "soon". Then he found out the board weren't willing to do anything until the end of the season.
No-one has hounded him out, fans have just reacted to the obvious truth that he is no longer the right man for the job. Making a noise is the only way to get a football manager removed, it's not like there's elections.
You can be grateful for what he did 13 years ago without thinking he should still be our manager in 2017 (or 2019 for that matter). He's past his best, we've given him plenty of time and we're under no obligation to give him more. This is top level competition, you can't make decisions based on sentiment. I'd give him the job for life if he could make it work, but he's shown he can't.
We might have years without CL football if he goes, but equally we might win the league after a year or two of transition. That'll never happen again with Wenger.
It won't be. It might be temporarily suppressed. Things have been getting steadily worse season on season for the last few years. There was fighting in the stands last season for a game, it spiralled more this season as the whole Wenger debate intensified.
Rightly or wrongly - and I think there's plenty of blame to go around, Wenger, the Board, and the Players - Wenger has become a symbol of the current decline at Arsenal. The fans are not going to forget. The slightest perceived problem will all be laid on him - the papers will have a field day linking us with every single player on the market, only to have them "fall through" or "choose someone else." Each loss, the same old excuses, will be greeted with ever louder anger by the supporters (if he stays).
We - at this moment - appear to have no voice and are shown no respect by the club, its directors, or the manager. This is why the anger and vitriol get louder from the fans - our only hope of being listened to is to scream... It raises the, unfortunately rather small, possibility that the board and the manager, from on high, might notice we exist and perhaps even matter.
And re next season, we've had enough trouble getting players in when we had a CL qualifier. Now we have no CL, I can't see all these players we might want looking at us as a desirable location unless we hired a modern coach with a better - recent - track record. I think a good summer is out of the question. I know from looking at our history that Özil and Sanchez will drag contracts on all summer long only to be sold cheap in August. These things just happen to us... I've long given up even attempting to guess why.
I agree we had injuries but we had Koscielny in the stand and could have paid the money much earlier to get Mustafi in.We had injuries, Liverpool were lucky.
But I agree, if fans are frustrated then it's because they are tired of the same patterns.
I don't know why we can't win our first game of the season anymore.
Wonder what will come out later. As a betting man I'd say it was the Alexis bust up and the hostility between him Özil and Giroud or in generals deep divisions within the squad.Bizarre press-conference.