Bernd Leno: Chosen One

[say yes]

Why are people surprised? This guy was arguably our POTY next season.

Leno vs. Martinez was debatable, but only the worst agenda merchants could think Leno was a bum.

Definitely has scope to improve though. Needs to push shots outside the danger zone and be more dominant in the air.

 

[TakeChillPill]

We can't play out from the back with Leno. Useless.

Yeah he does struggle with that 5 yard pass to gabriel or holding.

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

I'm happy for him. I criticism players because I hope they read these forums and see what I want them to improve on and I think they would be wise to take my advice because it would help. I always want the best for Arsenal players.

But this is just penalties against kids. You expect him to save at least 2. But can he become more like Martinez on set pieces, confidence against proper players, better distribution? That is what we want to see in next games!

 

[SA Gunner]

Why are people surprised? This guy was arguably our POTY next season.

Leno vs. Martinez was debatable, but only the worst agenda merchants could think Leno was a bum.

Definitely has scope to improve though. Needs to push shots outside the danger zone and be more dominant in the air.

And this is the point that the Leno till I die merchants ( @Riou @El Granit-Coq @Macho ) dont seem to, or want to get.

Both keepers are great keepers, but we must not forget the standard set by Emi during his final spell with us. That is where Leno needs to be, consistently.

 

[El Granit-Coq]

Why are people surprised? This guy was arguably our POTY next season.

Leno vs. Martinez was debatable, but only the worst agenda merchants could think Leno was a bum.

Definitely has scope to improve though. Needs to push shots outside the danger zone and be more dominant in the air.

Its just so refreshing to think there was ever a doubt that Leno was our N1.

Arteta knows a purple patch when he sees one, he played with Ramsey FFS.

Anyone who actually knew Leno could tell you in their sleep he has a mistake or two but is easily a WC GK. Guy was Neuers heir if it wasn't the politics of the German team.

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

Again saved our ass like he usually does he play for German national team for a reason when they have Neuer and Ter-Stergen

 

[Pop Tart]

Level of getting carried away, dude was shaky other day. One good game and he is Gordon banks

 

[SA Gunner]

Its just so refreshing to think there was ever a doubt that Leno was our N1.

Arteta knows a purple patch when he sees one, he played with Ramsey FFS.

Anyone who actually knew Leno could tell you in their sleep he has a mistake or two but is easily a WC GK. Guy was Neuers heir if it wasn't the politics of the German team.

Well he only has saved two penalties so close to one another once in his entire time at the club.

It could just be a purple patch you know... like how you said with Emi

 

[El Granit-Coq]

And this is the point that the Leno till I die merchants ( @Riou @El Granit-Coq @Macho ) dont seem to, or want to get.

Both keepers are great keepers, but we must not forget the standard set by Emi during his final spell with us. That is where Leno needs to be, consistently.

Go to the Leno thread when he first joined. I criticised him well before he started for us. People know his weaknesses but they aren't enough to make us question his potential.

The way you guys were going about it was like Emi was the chosen one, that he deserved to be the undisputed starter after 15 good games in 11 years. Forgetting that Leno has been putting in good performances before he joined and after he joined.

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

Wtf

 

[SA Gunner]

Go to the Leno thread when he first joined. I criticised him well before he started for us. People know his weaknesses but they aren't enough to make us question his potential.

The way you guys were going about it was like Emi was the chosen one, that he deserved to be the undisputed starter after 15 good games in 11 years. Forgetting that Leno has been putting in good performances before he joined and after he joined.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/benchmark

 

[El Granit-Coq]

Well he only has saved two penalties so close to one another once in his entire time at the club.

It could just be a purple patch you know... like how you said with Emi

Thing is, it isnt... He was brilliant at Leverkusen, has been brilliant since joining us... If its a purple patch, thats a long 5+ seasons.

 

[SA Gunner]

Thing is, it isnt... He was brilliant at Leverkusen, has been brilliant since joining us... If its a purple patch, thats a long 5+ seasons.

But but but... he only saved 2 penalties in a single match in all his time at Arsenal.. It must be a purple patch... surely? We cannot judge his penalty saving ability so soon.

 

[El Granit-Coq]

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/benchmark

Thats absolute nonsense... He did not set a benchmark for Leno... The guy has been brilliant for 5 seasons+ the ****

Emi did nothing to even rattle Leno. Leno knew he was coming back as N1. Setting a new benchmark would mean Leno would have to outperform Emi to retain his spot... He never had to

If anything, the only benchmark Emi set was for any N2 we have. That is the level

 

[Ibadan]

Leno vs Martinez is still a really interesting debate. I think one thing Martinez has over Leno is his sky high confidence - bordering on arrogance.

Take build-up play for example. Martinez used to ping risky balls out when playing from the back, taking all kinds of risks. Martinez would ask questions of his teammates.
Leno doesn't do that. He takes the safe option every time. It's why our build up is formulaic and predictable with Leno and downright risky but often more effective with Martinez.

 

[El Granit-Coq]

But but but... he only saved 2 penalties in a single match in all his time at Arsenal.. It must be a purple patch... surely? We cannot judge his penalty saving ability so soon.

Thats more penalties than Emi has ever saved for Arsenal... Whats your point?

 

[littleboysilva]

I dont want to hear any "we can't judge him off of one game" from you dickheads because you made the decision to judge martinez off of a purple patch over Leno's two seasons work.

 

[El Granit-Coq]

Leno vs Martinez is still a really interesting debate. I think one thing Martinez has over Leno is his sky high confidence - bordering on arrogance.

Take build-up play for example. Martinez used to ping risky balls out when playing from the back, taking all kinds of risks. Martinez would ask questions of his teammates.
Leno doesn't do that. He takes the safe option every time. It's why our build up is formulaic and predictable with Leno and downright risky but often more effective with Martinez.

Elite passing from the back...never makes a mistake...like having Pirlo in goal...

 

[Riou]

And this is the point that the Leno till I die merchants ( @Riou @El Granit-Coq @Macho ) dont seem to, or want to get.

The victors of the war are enjoying their win, that's all I want to get

 

[drippin]

I dont want to hear any "we can't judge him off of one game" from you dickheads because you made the decision to judge martinez off of a purple patch over Leno's two seasons work.

If we judged Martinez of a purple patch we would have said he is the best keeper in the world. He was that good.

But in his latest game with Villa against Fulham he dropped a very easy ball and gave away a plunder goal. Only to be saved by the VAR because of a defender foul earlier to an attacker.

This is what I warned against with a possible purple patch. ~15 games doesn't tell if he can remain without mistakes or how he recovers from them.