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Life after Wenger | Ornstein: Arsenal set to appoint Unai Emery
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Mitch
Blonde Brigade Grand Wizard
Allegri is on £3.5m a year whilst Wenger is £8.3m a year. Allegri would crawl naked dragging his bullocks over broken glass to get the Arsenal job if he's offered roughly the same money Wenger is on. We have our pick of the Elite managers if we are willing to pay over 7m on Wengers replacement.
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YeahBee
Terrible hot takes
Wenger lost this season when he allowed Zlatan to sign for Man Utd
he would have instilled some sense of urgency in the team
which ref would dare fvck us over like they have done constantly? we are a bunch of wimpy mommas boys
he does everything Giroud does but better, feeding of Özil instead of the humps at Manure he would be 30+goals all comps so far
he would have instilled some sense of urgency in the team
which ref would dare fvck us over like they have done constantly? we are a bunch of wimpy mommas boys
he does everything Giroud does but better, feeding of Özil instead of the humps at Manure he would be 30+goals all comps so far
Mark Tobias
Mr. Agreeable
Where else in modern football has there been a manager with the longevity of wenger? It's rare these days.
scytheavatar
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"Lack of longevity" is a good thing anyway, go look at Barca/Bayern/Madrid and how long their managers last. Some of their managers are bad, some are good, yet this change of manager keeps their tactics fresh and their teams full of new ideas. That's why they are among the best clubs in the world. If anything I hope going forward we can have term limits for our managers, no manager should be allowed to manage the club for more than 2 contract terms.
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Work is already under way, with Wenger’s knowledge, to consider who might be a potential candidate – after all, he has to leave at some stage. However, much of that has centred on the usual kind of future, hypothetical succession planning given there is a two-year contract on the table that the 67-year-old Frenchman might still sign; even if there is an understanding that it is best to wait until deeper into this season.
Gazidis and Arsenal, meanwhile, have been determining the criteria they want to fulfil and the structure which will be put in place at the club; things such as style of football, commitment to youth and a track record of success. All the easy stuff, in fact. Now the hard work might be about to begin; finding out who. They need to seriously look at names while balancing the risk of it leaking out.
A personal view is that Arsenal should not leave it. They should decide soon whether Wenger is staying and make it public. It would allow a more dignified exit or show that they are determined to retain him. It ends the speculation, uncertainty and accusation of prevarication. Instead it appears hand-to-mouth, about mood and what happens in three months.
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After a result like the 5-1 humiliation away to Bayern Munich in the Champions League clubs move into crisis mode. There is the holding position (no decision until end of the season). There is the attempt to take the heat out of the situation but, behind-the-scenes, it is the kind of watershed moment that will truly test the mettle of Gazidis and Arsenal’s owner Stan Kroenke.
The Arsenal executive do not want Wenger to go. Why would they? He has delivered continuity and a degree of comfortable success that has led to a smooth execution of a business plan. Arsenal is a simple business to run and the owner and directors have understandably surfed that. All the components are in place financially – beyond success on the pitch which, ultimately, is what it comes down to.
At the same time, Wenger’s last contract was not a simple renewal. There was a clear understanding that Arsenal had to move from a period of sustaining their position in the top four of the Premier League, and with it Champions League qualification, into winning.
And Wenger is yet to deliver in the second phase, the second decade, of his managerial career at the club. Kroenke, who is influenced by his son Josh, a far keener football follower, has clearly indicated a desire to keep Wenger beyond the end of this season by describing, at the last annual general meeting, the club’s board as “very high” on their manager and admitting that he will be an extremely hard act to follow.
There is also the argument that Arsenal do not want to follow what has happened at Manchester United since the retirement of Sir Alex Ferguson. But a change may also be liberating. Structurally Arsenal are in a better place than United. There are systems in place and also the suspicion that, as a natural consequence of being there so long, Wenger has held some people back.
Arsenal are more geared to be a modern, progressive football club than United and that will also be Wenger’s legacy. But if he does go it will also be the making or the breaking of Kroenke’s ownership and Gazidis’s leadership.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...ing-make-or-break-decision-cannot-afford-get/
FinnGooner
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People keep saying this but based on what? It's up to them to show it on the pitch. It's not like they haven't had chances.
In what way are we better set up as a club than ManUre where, when SAF left?
Wenger has even greater control of the footballing-side of things, than SAF had. Replacing Wenger is equal to replacing three to four men - how's this that much better than what ManUre had to do?
Wenger has even greater control of the footballing-side of things, than SAF had. Replacing Wenger is equal to replacing three to four men - how's this that much better than what ManUre had to do?
kopzilla
Always Negative
Would never have signed for us even if we paid him as much as he is being paid now...Such characters are hugely talented and capable but are a headache to manage. Very volatile and needlessly outspoken.
Man Utd lost SAF & David Gill at the same time, between them they ran that club.
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.....and we're stuck with Gazidis, which doesn't make anything better in terms of the football-side.
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Wenger actually appointed Gazidis, that's absolutely ridiculous. You just know behind the scenes that Gazidis has never disagreed with Wenger about anything, his little butler.
OMG just occurred to me that that may well be a possibility.
Kingslayer
Forza Milan
Rosso
AM's Resident United Fan
Anyone think Puel has a decent chance? Particularly if he manages to beat us in the EFL Cup final.
redanddread
The stone that the builders refuse
This won't happen......Wenger won't go upstairs....yet
carlito'sway
Established Member
I can't agree with you more. It is like some of our fans don't pay attention to other teams and players. I watch a lot of Ligue 1 and I can guarantee that there is at least 10 to 12 CM's there that are way better than Ox/Ramsey or Coq.
I don't watch German football that much but I am sure it is the same. These guys (plus the Theo, Gibbs etc) have had their chances year after year, they simply are not good enough.
carlito'sway
Established Member
Actually, the first step should be the hiring of a sporting Director or in a position of that nature. Robert Pires, who has been openly gearing for the job, could be a good option. He is Arsenal through and through, he knows the players very well and well connected in the football world.
Whoever is coming as a manager, this year or next year, will need to have someone in that role, able to help him adjust and adapt to the new environment as well as dealing with personnel matters.
Wenger's stature at the club is too big for one man to fill, specially if he is coming from outside.
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