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Lucas Torreira (Done)
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gunner4lyfe
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Thank you. Some people just want to get rid of players because they dont like them of because they like another player more. What about our bench?
Can't wait to watch Elneny vs Torreira on Friday, a matchup of absolute midfield titans 
Goonerfan
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How close is this to confirmed?
I know where Gerrard played in that system. You could call it second striker or AM, but he played behind Torres and in front of Alonso and Mascherano.
PEA will be our CF, and Ramsey would play behind him. Considering how often Ramsey scores goals via late runs into the box and where he plays for Wales, you could describe him as a "second striker" too.
Highbury_2006
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As close as it can be.
Country: Australia
Gerrard virtually played in the hole . We have played Ramsey behind the striker , it just doesn't work . Technically he's not adept at it and frankly it's a waste of his engine . He's great at making late runs from midfield but not very good if he's the one connecting the attack and midfield .
SingmeasongSong
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SingmeasongSong
Right Sometimes
By the way - what about Iwobi ?
I like Xhaka, I really like Ramsey, I love AMN and I now love Torreira too, but Iwobi has incredible potential as CM.
I was going along last season to drop him because there was too much without purpose in his runs but he has also shown what a special talent he is, if he is used in the right manner.
He should at least get enough minutes there and I think Emery is said to be an admirer anyways.
Triniboy
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Anyone know the best way to post a squawka comparison matrix to the forum? EDIT : Would like to post one I just did of Torreira vs some other top 6 PL defensive midfielders.
Country: Australia
Yeah agree , he can play a fair few positions too .
Country: England
Just a comment on Reddit I found from a Sampdoria fan:
Do you think he will compliment Xhaka?
'Yes and no. He's not a defensive mid like people who haven't watched him play like to say here, he's a deep-lying playmaker that can still win the ball and will track back, but don't rely on him being a rock; he is, however incredibly creative and can find passes for the strikers like few others can, and he also bombs forward to help the front three and get his share of goals. A front 6 of Torreira-Xhaka-Özil behind Mkhi-Lacazette-Aubameyang is a recipe for goals. But it can also be a liability defensively.
I say 'yes and no' because Xhaka, although he is bigger and stronger, is also not an out-and-out DM, and is also very much a central creator. The only thing that worries me about Arsenal next season is that against more aggressive and pressing opposing midfields - Man City, Tottenham, the like - Xhaka and Torreira might get run over. Torreira was never the guy we relied on to hold the midfield against more aggressive opposition - that's why we had Edgar Barreto.
Arsenal will have three very good deep playmaking central mids (Torreira, Xhaka, and Ramsey; add Wilshere if he re-signs), but the lack of a proper "defender" there - a Kante, or someone of the sort - might be an issue. That is, unlessEmery makes Xhaka into a more defensive player and gives Torreira the freedom to move and create.
A comparison to Torreira's style of play that you'd understand is 2013 Cazorla. Basically a phenomenal player, but not someone you'd want by himself on the middle of the pitch. Cazorla had Coquelin, and they complimented each other perfectly, while Torreira and Xhaka might not be the perfect pair, though I still expect them to succeed.
Playing Torreira and Ramsey together is probably only advisable against the lest threatening opposition, considering both's propensity to bomb forward and leave gaps behind. Either that or Emery instills more tactical rigidity into the squad.'
Do you think he will compliment Xhaka?
'Yes and no. He's not a defensive mid like people who haven't watched him play like to say here, he's a deep-lying playmaker that can still win the ball and will track back, but don't rely on him being a rock; he is, however incredibly creative and can find passes for the strikers like few others can, and he also bombs forward to help the front three and get his share of goals. A front 6 of Torreira-Xhaka-Özil behind Mkhi-Lacazette-Aubameyang is a recipe for goals. But it can also be a liability defensively.
I say 'yes and no' because Xhaka, although he is bigger and stronger, is also not an out-and-out DM, and is also very much a central creator. The only thing that worries me about Arsenal next season is that against more aggressive and pressing opposing midfields - Man City, Tottenham, the like - Xhaka and Torreira might get run over. Torreira was never the guy we relied on to hold the midfield against more aggressive opposition - that's why we had Edgar Barreto.
Arsenal will have three very good deep playmaking central mids (Torreira, Xhaka, and Ramsey; add Wilshere if he re-signs), but the lack of a proper "defender" there - a Kante, or someone of the sort - might be an issue. That is, unlessEmery makes Xhaka into a more defensive player and gives Torreira the freedom to move and create.
A comparison to Torreira's style of play that you'd understand is 2013 Cazorla. Basically a phenomenal player, but not someone you'd want by himself on the middle of the pitch. Cazorla had Coquelin, and they complimented each other perfectly, while Torreira and Xhaka might not be the perfect pair, though I still expect them to succeed.
Playing Torreira and Ramsey together is probably only advisable against the lest threatening opposition, considering both's propensity to bomb forward and leave gaps behind. Either that or Emery instills more tactical rigidity into the squad.'
Is this really a Sampdoria fan or a hipster pretending to be one? Reddit is full of those.
Country: England
Obviously could be anyone, but he's got a Sampdoria flag next to his name, again though, who knows.
SingmeasongSong
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http://www.gunnerstown.com/arsenal/...torreira-uruguayan-star-destined-for-arsenal/
An interview with insight on the player and person for anyone keen to get to know Torreira better.
By the way: that pic in the article though - Suarez looks like a ****ing giant
An interview with insight on the player and person for anyone keen to get to know Torreira better.
By the way: that pic in the article though - Suarez looks like a ****ing giant
Fewtch
Özil at 10 And Emery Out
Country: Australia
Thought he made sense to be honest.
Stannis
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All good, just get Sander Berge for 10 million as well. Big, mobile, ball playing mountain to go with our new pocket rocket
FinnGooner
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Despite some similarities, Torreira is quite different player than Kante. Both are small yet powerful midfielders who has a good ability to win the ball. However, the way Torreira plays with the ball is quite different and reminds me more of Wilshere than Kante. He is. Much more of a DLP type than a pure DM. I haven't seen him a ton but this was the impression I got of him from the few games I've seen and compilations only reinforce this impression. Techically he ticks all the boxes: good ball winner with very good passing ability and in addition can run past players with the ball. As a bonus, is good at set pieces. Questions remain about his positioning (no idea if good or bad or in between) and mentality (adjustment to the UK always a big question with South American players)
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