True. Marcos Silva has done brilliantly with Hull. Shame they be going down this season.
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PL Promotion & Relegation
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True. Marcos Silva has done brilliantly with Hull. Shame they be going down this season.
Newcastle won the championship Blackburn relegated to league 1
Notorious Big
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Good job for Newcastle and Benitez.And for Blackburn,what to say,they were in EPL not long ago.
Kroket
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Good job by Harry Redknapp keeping Birmingham in the Championship, be interesting to see if he stays on.
It was a horrible mistake by Brighton goalie Stockdale that handed Newcastle the title btw, they're still coming up to the Prem but that was awful to see regardless.
It was a horrible mistake by Brighton goalie Stockdale that handed Newcastle the title btw, they're still coming up to the Prem but that was awful to see regardless.
they got very awful owners. Benitez done very well but according to Newcastle fans they need to strength so much to stay in PL and sell most of their players.
Don't thing Brighton gonna survive in PL their squad avrage age is 30 years old they need to strength
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Southampton are so disciplined. Very very hard to play against.
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mmac76
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Hull are down - a shame but they should never have lost to Sunderland at home last week
will be difficult for them now - they'll lose Silva and any half-decent players like MacGuire
was really hoping they'd beat Palace today - woudl love to see Allardyce relegated
will be difficult for them now - they'll lose Silva and any half-decent players like MacGuire
was really hoping they'd beat Palace today - woudl love to see Allardyce relegated
Dokaka
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Allardyce doesn't get relegated. All time greatest manager at saving ****e clubs from relegation. Really weird manager. Incredibly high floor but the ceiling is so low that you'd have crawl through.
Honestly though, I think if you gave a genuine top club to Allardyce he would at least maintain the status quo. I'm not sure he would've done a worse job than Mourinho this season if he was at Man Utd.
Honestly though, I think if you gave a genuine top club to Allardyce he would at least maintain the status quo. I'm not sure he would've done a worse job than Mourinho this season if he was at Man Utd.
Batman
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I think they actually may have done better. Mou was well and truly awful this season. Outside of the result at Chelsea he looks past it.
Rumour
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So that's the relegation battle done and dusted.... In the end, Marco Silva couldn't pull off the escape act but he's done himself much credit in the attempt. Most Hull supporters (from what I've seen) blame the current owners for the threadbare squad that largely led to their demise, and aren't optimistic for a Premier League return any time soon.
Not much to say about Sunderland or Middlesbrough: the former has been tempting fate for several seasons now and the latter couldn't hold on after an OK first few months once the goals dried up. Don't see either coming back up next season without major changes.
What I've gleaned from observing the teams at the foot of the table, plus casually following the top of the Championship, is the absolute importance of good management. A sufficient level of investment is obviously necessary but a manager with good tactical and motivational ability, plus the ability to maximise resources, is almost always the difference between success and failure. Team owners and membership boards therefore have to get this decision right above all else.
All the relegated teams hung on to the wrong man for too long, while those that narrowly escaped acknowledged their mistake in time and either got a relegation specialist (Big Sam) or a respected up-and-comer (Clement, but could easily have been Silva had Hull acted sooner). Newcastle and BHA, on the other hand, kept faith with the current manager who almost kept them in or got them to the PL last year and were duly rewarded with automatic promotion.
There's no room for either complacency or rash judgment at this level of the game - clubs on the edge simply can't afford it. That's the preserve of mid-table teams that hold no ambition for titles or cups, or those with clueless owners out to make a big splash or fast buck. Yet, in the blink of an eye, a perennial mainstay or also-ran team can find itself slipping down and out of the table, possibly straight into oblivion.
Not much to say about Sunderland or Middlesbrough: the former has been tempting fate for several seasons now and the latter couldn't hold on after an OK first few months once the goals dried up. Don't see either coming back up next season without major changes.
What I've gleaned from observing the teams at the foot of the table, plus casually following the top of the Championship, is the absolute importance of good management. A sufficient level of investment is obviously necessary but a manager with good tactical and motivational ability, plus the ability to maximise resources, is almost always the difference between success and failure. Team owners and membership boards therefore have to get this decision right above all else.
All the relegated teams hung on to the wrong man for too long, while those that narrowly escaped acknowledged their mistake in time and either got a relegation specialist (Big Sam) or a respected up-and-comer (Clement, but could easily have been Silva had Hull acted sooner). Newcastle and BHA, on the other hand, kept faith with the current manager who almost kept them in or got them to the PL last year and were duly rewarded with automatic promotion.
There's no room for either complacency or rash judgment at this level of the game - clubs on the edge simply can't afford it. That's the preserve of mid-table teams that hold no ambition for titles or cups, or those with clueless owners out to make a big splash or fast buck. Yet, in the blink of an eye, a perennial mainstay or also-ran team can find itself slipping down and out of the table, possibly straight into oblivion.
Rumour
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Damn, I knew Sunderland fans weren't thrilled by Moyes but that's a lot of animosityI posted this in one of other threads but also belongs here really - just see the reaction in the comments to Moyes staying at Sunderland - 6 pages of almost uninterrupted despair
http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport...season-ellis-short-wants-me-to-stay-1-8528460
Didn't know he had spent so much on dross or was given a four-year contract, no wonder he doesn't want to quit after his dismal performance this season - although it seems like public pressure is building and could force the owner's hand:http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport...raight-down-the-tunnel-at-full-time-1-8542168
Contrast the reaction of the Sunderland manager and supporters in their heavy loss to Swansea with that of Hull, also beaten 4-0, and tell me that the choice of manager is secondary to other factors:
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-palace-hull-city-premier-league-match-report
One goes straight down the tunnel after crowd chants calling for his head, the other consoles his players after a crushing defeat and has travelling supporters serenading him even as the team is shipping goals.
mmac76
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Damn, I knew Sunderland fans weren't thrilled by Moyes but that's a lot of animosity
http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport...raight-down-the-tunnel-at-full-time-1-8542168
Contrast the reaction of the Sunderland manager and supporters in their heavy loss to Swansea with that of Hull, also beaten 4-0, and tell me that the choice of manager is secondary to other factors:
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-palace-hull-city-premier-league-match-report
One goes straight down the tunnel after crowd chants calling for his head, the other consoles his players after a crushing defeat and has travelling supporters serenading him even as the team is shipping goals.
yes, indeed
the article about Palace v Hull says: 'He will meet the board this week, before the final-day visit of Tottenham Hotspur, and make clear his thoughts over the future – that of the club as well as his own – having publicly identified last summer’s chaos, which had briefly left them with 13 senior professionals going into a top-flight campaign, as the real reason this team have slipped back into the second tier”'
My feeling is he's a decent guy who might want to 'do a Benitez' and see if he can get them straight up again, but no doubt will want concrete assurances re being able to buy players and offer good terms to try to keep the best of his current ones
mmac76
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and as for Moyes... "I didn't want to make it any worse so I got myself quickly down the tunnel."
Once again no instinct regarding the right thing to do - if he gets it right he stays out there, takes the s**t and thanks them for paying to turn up and watch that c**p
Once again no instinct regarding the right thing to do - if he gets it right he stays out there, takes the s**t and thanks them for paying to turn up and watch that c**p
Pickford, Defoe, Watmore, Elmohamady, Robertson, Maguire, Gibson, and Valdes are the players midtable clubs should pick up. The rest are relatively garbage.
Maybe Traore as well, though he's a bit of a unique case. He's very good at some things, and absolutely rubbish at others. Not sure he can be relied upon.
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For once it's genuinely the 3 worst sides in terms of overall quality that have been relegated.
Sunderland horrendous offensively with a lot of ****house defenders. Boro were reasonably solid but just couldn't score goals. While Hull entered the season with a very thin squad while they sold two of their best players in January.
Swansea and Palace both have quality in their sides, while Burnley have some decent players too and a very good manager. All these sides have something to offer the PL whereas the two Northeast sides especially just weren't anywhere close to being PL level and I fully believe both sides will struggle next season too (tho Sunderland will probably be able to outspend every other side in the division).
Sunderland horrendous offensively with a lot of ****house defenders. Boro were reasonably solid but just couldn't score goals. While Hull entered the season with a very thin squad while they sold two of their best players in January.
Swansea and Palace both have quality in their sides, while Burnley have some decent players too and a very good manager. All these sides have something to offer the PL whereas the two Northeast sides especially just weren't anywhere close to being PL level and I fully believe both sides will struggle next season too (tho Sunderland will probably be able to outspend every other side in the division).
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I would take Defoe to replace those 10 goals Giroud provides us each season, given that surely we have come to our senses and are gonna dump Giroud somewhere in Venezuela.
